The base itself is not in dispute. The CIA acknowledged Groom Lake in 2013 when it released a history of the U-2 and OXCART programmes, and the runways are visible in public satellite imagery.
What the interviews add is testimony that attaches to the area rather than the base proper. Bob Lazar says his 1988–89 work happened at S-4, a separate site south of Groom Lake near Papoose Lake. Charles Hall, a former Air Force weather observer, says he met tall white beings at the Indian Springs ranges between 1965 and 1967. UAPGerb frames the Nevada Test and Training Range as the umbrella that \"houses Area 51 that houses allegedly S4\".
None of the claimed craft or beings has public documentation. The place is verified; what is said to be inside it is not.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb says the Nevada Test and Training Range houses Area 51, allegedly S-4, and the Tonopah Test Range.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "include the Nevada Test and Training Range. Um you know that houses Area 51 that houses allegedly S4 that houses the Tonapa test range." } ] }, { "text": "Greer says underground connectors run from Nellis and Area 51 to Edwards and that these tunnels have all been built.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "areO7Mej44E", "ts": "2:28:02", "speaker": "Steven Greer", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "quote": "you have connectors from Nellis Area 51 to Edwards go underground. Boom. Dougway um from the Capitol out to the mountains in Virginia. Uh these have all been built." } ] }, { "text": "Hall says he was a duty weather observer at Indian Springs from 1965 to 1967 while stationed at Nellis, which controls the gunnery ranges.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "charles-hall", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "0:09:53", "speaker": "Charles Hall", "speaker_slug": "charles-hall", "quote": "I was a weather observer in the US Air Force and I was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base uh from March of 1965 until May of 1967. And Nellis is in charge of the gunnery ranges at Indian Springs and I was a duty weather observer at Indian Springs." } ] }, { "text": "Area 51 (Groom Lake) is a real USAF test facility whose existence the CIA publicly acknowledged in a 2013 U-2 history release.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:00:03", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "A Weekend With Bob Lazar: Inside Area51's UFOs" } ] }, { "text": "Area 51/Groom Lake is a verified flight-test facility onto which guests project craft narratives.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "randy-anderson", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Sct30Qijfv8", "ts": "0:00:00", "speaker": "Randy Anderson", "speaker_slug": "randy-anderson", "quote": "work at Area 51 right we call it the test site or the test range Area 51 is just one component of that entire huge sprawling compound during that time a a green orb type object had flown over and that was where the weird [ __ ] started we moved on down another hallway and it had" } ] } ], "first_year": 1955, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc", "lazar-sport-model" ], "beings": [ "tall-white" ], "people": [ "bob-lazar", "charles-hall", "george-knapp", "steven-greer" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1989-lazar-s4" ], "photo": "assets/sites/area-51-groom-lake.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-CRAFT-0033", "N-PEOPLE-0073" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Area 51 / Groom Lake — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "external", "title": "CIA declassified U-2/OXCART history (2013)", "url": "https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/collection/u-2-and-oxcart-programs", "publisher": "CIA" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "include the Nevada Test and Training Range. Um you know that houses Area 51 that houses allegedly S4 that houses the Tonapa test range." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "areO7Mej44E", "ts": "2:28:02", "speaker": "Steven Greer", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "quote": "you have connectors from Nellis Area 51 to Edwards go underground. Boom. Dougway um from the Capitol out to the mountains in Virginia. Uh these have all been built." } ] }, { "slug": "s4-papoose-lake", "name": "S-4 / Papoose Lake", "aka": [ "S4", "Papoose Lake facility" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "storage" ], "lat": 37.01, "lon": -115.86, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Papoose Lake dry lakebed from public gazetteer; the hangars Lazar describes are testimony-only and not visible in imagery.", "country": "United States", "region": "Nevada Test and Training Range", "status": "contested", "summary": "Lazar says a facility built into the Papoose Range, south of Groom Lake, held nine recovered discs in hangars and that he worked on the propulsion of one in 1988–89. No public record of an S-4 site exists; the dry lake is real and lies inside the Nevada Test and Training Range.", "body_html": "Papoose Lake is a real dry lakebed about 15 km south of Groom Lake. The facility Lazar names \"S-4\" is not. He describes hangar doors set into the mountainside, nine saucer-shaped craft, and a briefing room where he read documents about the craft's origin.
The claim has been repeated by Lazar since 1989 and is supported in the interviews by his own testimony and by George Knapp's account of vetting him. It is contested by researchers who could not confirm his Los Alamos employment or MIT/Caltech education, and no other first-hand witness to S-4 appears in the interviews.
The record is therefore \"contested\": the geography is verifiable, the installation is one man's account.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels narrates Lazar's 1989 account: that he worked at a secret facility called S-4, just south of Area 51 in the Nevada desert, where his job was to reverse engineer craft.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:00:01", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "He said that he had worked at a secret government facility called S-4, just south of Area 51 in the Nevada desert, where his job, his actual job, was to reverse engineer the" } ] }, { "text": "Lazar says two jobs were on offer and he was placed in the second, at S-4 in the Papoose Lake area.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:36:01", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "and the second one was S-4 out at the Papoose Lake area. And what what were they" } ] }, { "text": "Lazar says S-4 had nine hangars, large enough to explain the long corridors he walked.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:42:23", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "And there were nine hangars, so and they're fairly big, so that explains why the corridors were so long." } ] }, { "text": "Lazar says the briefings at S-4 covered Project Galileo, the one he was assigned to, and also Looking Glass and Sidekick.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:42:54", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "Project Galileo was the first uh You know. the first briefing on there. And so that was your project. >> Yeah. And then but you had other briefings as well. Yeah, yeah. And and and that was project looking glass." } ] }, { "text": "Lazar says he saw an American flag on the \"sport model\" craft on his first day at S-4 and that, as he understands it, the Navy got that craft.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "1:10:45", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "on this sport model they I saw that like the first day that I went in. Okay. Was there any talk of how these crafts were retrieved? Uh I know I mean I know the Navy Mhm. got the sport model." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that S-4's existence is still officially denied, and that a researcher used Google Earth's historical imagery to find a 2022 view of the area before it was blurred.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "1:27:42", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "And to this day, S4's existence is still denied. It's not supposed to exist. But Luigi used Google Earth's historical imagery to go back in time and found a 2022 version of the area surrounding S4 that was not yet" } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that the USGS map of Papoose Lake was altered eight days after Lazar went public in his first anonymous interview, which he presents as circumstantial support for S-4.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "1:28:46", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "the map of Papoose Lake [music] was literally altered eight days after Bob Lazar went public in his first anonymous video. You heard me right." } ] }, { "text": "EG&G was a real Nevada Test Site / Area 51 support contractor; Lazar's claimed EG&G path into S-4 remains unverified.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "1:10:20", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "he specifically gets a job with EGNG. And EG pops up elsewhere in 1997. You have Admiral Thomas Wilson, who's head of J2 Joint Chiefs, who is, you know, under his purview is all, you know, technical capabilities of, you know, US military. And he's meeting with Dr." } ] } ], "first_year": 1989, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc", "lazar-sport-model" ], "beings": [ "grey" ], "people": [ "bob-lazar", "george-knapp", "jeremy-corbell" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1989-lazar-s4" ], "photo": "assets/sites/s4-papoose-lake.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-CRAFT-0032", "N-PEOPLE-0074", "N-SITES-0010" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "S-4 / Papoose Lake — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:00:01", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "He said that he had worked at a secret government facility called S-4, just south of Area 51 in the Nevada desert, where his job, his actual job, was to reverse engineer the" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:36:01", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "and the second one was S-4 out at the Papoose Lake area. And what what were they" } ] }, { "slug": "wright-patterson-afb", "name": "Wright-Patterson Air Force Base", "aka": [ "Wright Field", "Hangar 18 (folklore)" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "storage" ], "lat": 39.8261, "lon": -84.0483, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio.", "country": "United States", "region": "Dayton, Ohio", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Ohio base that housed the Foreign Technology Division and Project Blue Book. Speakers say recovered Roswell material was taken there for reverse engineering; a 1994 Larry King clip of Senator Goldwater is shown saying he was refused entry. UAPGerb links special-projects engineer Eric Henry Wang to the base.", "body_html": "Wright-Patterson is publicly documented as the home of the Air Force's Foreign Technology Division and of Project Blue Book, the UFO study that ran until 1969. \"Hangar 18\" is folklore; the phrase does not occur in any of the interviews.
In the interviews the base appears as the destination of material. Jesse Michels relays a witness account that debris went to Wright-Patterson to be reverse engineered, plays Barry Goldwater's 1994 remark that he was turned away when he asked to see what was kept there, and narrates a claim that Paperclip scientists worked there on the 1933 Magenta craft. UAPGerb and Greg Bishop both cite researcher William Steinman on Eric Henry Wang, who ran special projects at Wright Field.
These are chains of testimony and archive reading, not documents about recovered craft. The base is verified; the storage claim is not.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels relays a witness account that recovered materials were taken to Wright-Patterson to be reverse engineered.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2023, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "kRO5jOa06Qw", "ts": "0:25:11", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "According to him, the materials were eventually taken to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. This actually makes sense. Wright Pat was the place that the military would take enemy equipment in order to reverse engineer it." } ] }, { "text": "Michels shows a 1994 Larry King clip in which Senator Barry Goldwater discusses his inquiries into secret technology held at Wright-Patterson.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "5udx_SDdL3Y", "ts": "0:17:06", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "an interview with Barry Goldwater who was then a sitting Senator he then went on to actually be a presidential candidate and here's a good video of him discussing his inquiries into what secret Tech was being held at rright Patterson Air Force Base I think" } ] }, { "text": "Goldwater (archival, 1994) says he thinks the government does know about UFOs and that he could not back that up.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "barry-goldwater", "side": "government", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "5udx_SDdL3Y", "ts": "0:17:06", "speaker": "Barry Goldwater", "speaker_slug": "barry-goldwater", "quote": "I think the government does know I can't back that up but I think that uh at right Patterson field if you could get into certain places you'd find out what" } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb, citing William Steinman, says Eric Henry Wang ran special projects at Wright Field and was taken to Kirtland to work on exotic flight.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "1:30:38", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "this guy Eric Henry Wang, who ran special projects at Wright Patterson, right airfield at the time, was taken to Kirtland Air Force Base to work probably on some of this exotic flight stuff." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates a claim that Operation Paperclip scientists went to Wright-Patterson to work on the 1933 Magenta craft.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "09KP8XVf5nY", "ts": "1:38:32", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Many of the top Nazi scientists as a part of Operation Paperclip that the Allies had exfiltrated also made their way to Wright Patterson to work on the magenta craft." } ] }, { "text": "Alberino says the Kandahar pilot heard second-hand that the body he transported ended up at Wright-Patterson, and that the pilot himself did not know if it was true.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:20:25", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "I heard through the grapevine the giant ended up at Wright-Patterson. He said, \"I don't know if it's true, but that's what I heard." } ] }, { "text": "Wright-Patterson AFB is a real USAF base; claims that it housed Roswell debris or a Special Studies flying-saucer department under Kissinger's oversight remain unverified lore layered on a real place.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Jpf0ZGY87c0", "ts": "0:02:49", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Stansel's the head of the special studies department at Wright Patterson who is much more of a mystery. Dr. [music] Eric Wang. Unlike Stansel, Wang" } ] }, { "text": "Philip J. Corso claimed in The Day After Roswell that as chief of the Army's Foreign Technology Desk he seeded Roswell debris into US industry; his Army career is real, the seeding claim is memoir testimony without primary documents.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Jpf0ZGY87c0", "ts": "0:19:04", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Philip J. Corso was a member, another CIC agent who went into government. He was on the staff of Eisenhower's National Security Council and eventually became the chief of the Pentagon's foreign technology desk in Army Research and Development." } ] } ], "first_year": 1947, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "david-grusch", "harald-malmgren", "philip-corso" ], "documents": [ "blue-book-special-report-14", "project-blue-book", "roswell-report-1994" ], "footage": [], "events": [ "1947-roswell" ], "graph_ids": [ "N-PEOPLE-0075", "N-CRAFT-0065" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Wright-Patterson Air Force Base — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright-Patterson_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "kRO5jOa06Qw", "ts": "0:25:11", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "According to him, the materials were eventually taken to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. This actually makes sense. Wright Pat was the place that the military would take enemy equipment in order to reverse engineer it." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "5udx_SDdL3Y", "ts": "0:17:06", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "an interview with Barry Goldwater who was then a sitting Senator he then went on to actually be a presidential candidate and here's a good video of him discussing his inquiries into what secret Tech was being held at rright Patterson Air Force Base I think" } ] }, { "slug": "dugway-proving-ground", "name": "Dugway Proving Ground", "aka": [ "Dougway (caption spelling)", "Area 52 (folklore)" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "facility" ], "lat": 40.19, "lon": -112.93, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Dugway Proving Ground, Tooele County, Utah; installation boundary from imagery.", "country": "United States", "region": "Tooele County, Utah", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A US Army chemical and biological test site in Utah's West Desert. UAPGerb calls it \"the new Area 51\" and places the Utah Test and Training Range and West Desert Test Center on it; he also notes Greer's naming of Dugway traces to earlier researcher Bill Hamilton. Greer describes tunnels reaching it.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb says the Utah Test and Training Range and the West Desert Test Center are both situated on Dugway Proving Ground.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "This includes the Utah test and training range. um the West Desert Test Center. Both of those are situated on Dougway proving ground," } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb says the sites Greer names — Edwards, China Lake, Dugway — trace to earlier claims by researcher Bill Hamilton.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "0:48:47", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards Air Force Base, not really Wright Patterson, China Lake, uh, Dougway Proving Grounds, all of these sites. And you can see direct direct quotes from ah and Hamilton that have made it their way into Greer's research." } ] }, { "text": "The episode's title claim — that a 'new Area 51' is in Utah — is advanced in conversation around restricted Utah military/test ranges including Dugway-adjacent geography.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "together cuz a ton of new topics to touch on, old stuff to revisit, new information. It's been an exciting time. It's been a crazy time. I don't even know where to start. May maybe we start with the Jake Barber story." } ] } ], "first_year": 1942, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "steven-greer" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/dugway-proving-ground.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0007" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Dugway Proving Ground — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_Proving_Ground", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "This includes the Utah test and training range. um the West Desert Test Center. Both of those are situated on Dougway proving ground," }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "0:48:47", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards Air Force Base, not really Wright Patterson, China Lake, uh, Dougway Proving Grounds, all of these sites. And you can see direct direct quotes from ah and Hamilton that have made it their way into Greer's research." } ] }, { "slug": "kirtland-afb-manzano", "name": "Kirtland AFB / Manzano / Sandia", "aka": [ "Kirtland Air Force Base", "Manzano Base", "Sandia National Laboratories" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "storage", "facility" ], "lat": 35.04, "lon": -106.609, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Kirtland AFB main base; Manzano storage complex and Sandia labs lie on the same reservation.", "country": "United States", "region": "Albuquerque, New Mexico", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Albuquerque base with the Manzano weapons storage complex and Sandia National Laboratories. Speakers connect it to the Paul Bennewitz affair, to Eric Henry Wang's transfer, and to claims of recovered craft and material handled at Sandia. UAPGerb lists Sandia among the FFRDCs he believes house programme work.", "body_html": "Kirtland, Manzano and Sandia share one fenced reservation on the south-east edge of Albuquerque, which is why they are treated here as one place. Manzano was the Cold War nuclear weapons storage site; Sandia is a Department of Energy laboratory.
Testimony in the interviews runs from the 1980 Bennewitz episode, in which Richard Doty fed a local physicist false information, to UAPGerb's reading of William Steinman that Eric Henry Wang was moved from Wright Field to Kirtland to work on \"exotic flight\". Speakers in the Malmgren and Mars episodes describe material handled at Sandia.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb names Sandia, Livermore, Oak Ridge and Battelle-run institutions among the FFRDCs where he believes programme work is housed.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "FFRDC's examples here would be the MITER Corporation, uh numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb says Eric Henry Wang was taken from Wright Field to Kirtland Air Force Base, probably to work on exotic flight.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "1:30:38", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "was taken to Kirtland Air Force Base to work probably on some of this exotic flight stuff. Yeah. And Wang was also talked about by primary Kingman witness um Arthur Stansel Jr. Yep." } ] }, { "text": "Brandenburg holds a PhD in theoretical plasma physics and worked at Lawrence Livermore, Sandia National Laboratories and Mission Research Corporation.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "side": "scientist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "p0S0BfoZy0w", "ts": "0:03:41", "speaker": "John Brandenburg", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "quote": "So, then I finished there, and I went on to another government lab called Sandia National Lab, and worked on directed energy weapons. I wanted to work on fusion, but all the money had suddenly dried up for fusion research." } ] }, { "text": "Brandenburg attributes his lifelong Mars focus to the hope, formed at Sandia during the 1983 nuclear scare, that a dead civilisation on Mars would end the Cold War.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "side": "scientist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "p0S0BfoZy0w", "ts": "0:04:44", "speaker": "John Brandenburg", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "quote": "I thought suddenly I had hope for the future for the human race. I thought, \"Well, if we discover a dead civilization on Mars, then the Cold War will be over.\" The Russians and Americans will go to Mars together and investigate." } ] }, { "text": "Sandia National Laboratories is a real DOE/NNSA lab; UAPGerb's claim that Sandia-managed Tonopah/TTR sites house legacy UFO materials is testimony/inference.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "1:08:16", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "one such place would be the ton of test range TTR which is managed by Sand Sandia which is the department of energy's experimental weapons testing >> and what does he say he does specifically in the context of crash >> we we'll we'll talk about that that's interesting there's" } ] }, { "text": "Bishop locates the Bennewitz monitoring story around Kirtland AFB and notes Bennewitz's prior Skunk Works employment interest — details that are checkable against Project Beta sourcing.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "greg-bishop", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "WBTqsbwJyqU", "ts": "0:06:24", "speaker": "Greg Bishop", "speaker_slug": "greg-bishop", "quote": "Kirtland Air Force Base. Kitland Air Force Base has an interesting history in just UFO lore. I believe it was managed back in the day by the Sandia offshoot of the Atomic Energy Commission. Oh, okay. Okay." } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb infers that FFRDCs and DOE national labs (Sandia, Livermore, Oak Ridge, Battelle-run sites) sit above defense primes in an alleged UFO materials-custody hierarchy.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "FFRDC's examples here would be the MITER Corporation, uh numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] } ], "first_year": 1980, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "harald-malmgren", "john-brandenburg", "richard-doty" ], "documents": [ "majestic-12-documents" ], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-SWEEP_A-0034", "N-MARS-0052", "N-PEOPLE-0065" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Kirtland AFB / Manzano / Sandia — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtland_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "FFRDC's examples here would be the MITER Corporation, uh numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "1:30:38", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "was taken to Kirtland Air Force Base to work probably on some of this exotic flight stuff. Yeah. And Wang was also talked about by primary Kingman witness um Arthur Stansel Jr. Yep." } ] }, { "slug": "nellis-range", "name": "Nellis Range / Indian Springs", "aka": [ "Nevada Test and Training Range", "NTTR", "Indian Springs", "Creech AFB" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base" ], "lat": 36.9, "lon": -115.9, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Range centroid from public boundary data; the range covers roughly 12,000 km², so the pin marks a region, not a point.", "country": "United States", "region": "Southern Nevada", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Nevada Test and Training Range north of Las Vegas, run from Nellis AFB, with the Indian Springs (Creech) gunnery ranges at its southern edge. Charles Hall says he lived alongside tall white beings there as a weather observer in 1965–67; Greer describes tunnels linking Nellis to Area 51 and Edwards.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Hall says the tall whites lived in underground facilities at the north end of Indian Springs Valley, complete with hangars for their craft (Michels' introduction of Hall).", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "0:03:11", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Hall claims that the tall whites lived in underground facilities at the north end of Indian Springs Valley, complete with hangers for their craft, a story bearing striking resemblance to that of Bob Lazar." } ] }, { "text": "Hall says his job included long isolated tours at the Indian Springs Gunnery Ranges while stationed at Nellis from 1965 to 1967 (Michels' introduction).", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "0:01:37", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "From 1965 to 1967, he was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. His job included long isolated tours at the Indian Springs Gunnery Ranges." } ] }, { "text": "Greer says underground connectors run from Nellis and Area 51 to Edwards.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "areO7Mej44E", "ts": "2:28:02", "speaker": "Steven Greer", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "quote": "you have connectors from Nellis Area 51 to Edwards go underground." } ] } ], "first_year": 1965, "last_year": 2025, "crafts": [], "beings": [ "tall-white" ], "people": [ "charles-hall", "steven-greer" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Nellis Range / Indian Springs — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_and_Training_Range", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "0:03:11", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Hall claims that the tall whites lived in underground facilities at the north end of Indian Springs Valley, complete with hangers for their craft, a story bearing striking resemblance to that of Bob Lazar." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "0:01:37", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "From 1965 to 1967, he was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. His job included long isolated tours at the Indian Springs Gunnery Ranges." } ] }, { "slug": "los-alamos", "name": "Los Alamos National Laboratory", "aka": [ "LANL", "Los Alamos" ], "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility" ], "lat": 35.88, "lon": -106.3031, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Los Alamos National Laboratory main technical area, New Mexico.", "country": "United States", "region": "Los Alamos County, New Mexico", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The New Mexico weapons laboratory. Lazar says he worked there before S-4 and that the local paper covered his jet-powered Honda; Hastings lists it among nuclear sites where UFOs have consistently been reported; Kecksburg-linked scientists discussed on the show also pass through it.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Lazar says he sent a résumé to Los Alamos from Fairchild Electronics, leaning on his side projects rather than his work history.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:17:11", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "At the time I was working at Fairchild Electronics in in Simi Valley, And I was just tired and burnt out of that and uh just sent a resume to Los Alamos, but really laid heavily on the stuff not my work history, things that I did aside from work." } ] }, { "text": "Lazar says he drove a jet-engined Honda to work at Los Alamos and that the local paper put it on the front page.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "side": "contractor", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:17:42", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "when I moved there, the local paper put that on the front page cuz they thought that was really cool. And that's how most people remember me at that time because I drove it to work at Los Alamos." } ] }, { "text": "Hastings says UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities from Los Alamos to Hanford, Oak Ridge, Malmstrom, Minot and F.E. Warren.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities and energy grids around the world from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah riversite to Royal Air Force bases in the UK and nuclear sites in the former Soviet Union" } ] } ], "first_year": 1943, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "bob-lazar", "robert-hastings" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1989-lazar-s4" ], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Los Alamos National Laboratory — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alamos_National_Laboratory", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:17:11", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "At the time I was working at Fairchild Electronics in in Simi Valley, And I was just tired and burnt out of that and uh just sent a resume to Los Alamos, but really laid heavily on the stuff not my work history, things that I did aside from work." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "0:17:42", "speaker": "Bob Lazar", "speaker_slug": "bob-lazar", "quote": "when I moved there, the local paper put that on the front page cuz they thought that was really cool. And that's how most people remember me at that time because I drove it to work at Los Alamos." } ] }, { "slug": "dulce", "name": "Dulce / Archuleta Mesa", "aka": [ "Dulce Base", "Archuleta Mesa" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base" ], "lat": 36.94, "lon": -106.99, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Archuleta Mesa from public gazetteer; the claimed base is testimony-only, so the pin marks the mesa region.", "country": "United States", "region": "Rio Arriba County, New Mexico", "status": "unverified", "summary": "A small town on the Jicarilla Apache reservation in northern New Mexico. Speakers describe a claimed underground base under Archuleta Mesa and a reported clash there; the story grew from the Bennewitz affair. No public record of any installation exists, and the interviews offer only second-hand references.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Brandenburg refers to a reported military clash at Dulce, and frames it as a breakdown of a supposed accommodation with grey beings.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "side": "scientist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "p0S0BfoZy0w", "ts": "1:41:56", "speaker": "John Brandenburg", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "quote": "there was this reported military clash at Dulce, reported." } ] }, { "text": "Buchanan, describing land where nothing visibly happens but men in nondescript outfits keep people out, agrees when Michels names Dulce and says such places exist all over the world.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "C9OwvGgrHrA", "ts": "1:20:06", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "Like Dulce, New Mexico, and yeah, uh >> Yeah, and some of these other places. So, you think that's happening maybe all over the US. >> All over the world, I think." } ] } ], "first_year": 1979, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [ "grey" ], "people": [ "john-brandenburg", "lyn-buchanan", "richard-doty" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Dulce / Archuleta Mesa — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulce_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "p0S0BfoZy0w", "ts": "1:41:56", "speaker": "John Brandenburg", "speaker_slug": "john-brandenburg", "quote": "there was this reported military clash at Dulce, reported." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "C9OwvGgrHrA", "ts": "1:20:06", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "Like Dulce, New Mexico, and yeah, uh >> Yeah, and some of these other places. So, you think that's happening maybe all over the US. >> All over the world, I think." } ] }, { "slug": "pine-gap", "name": "Pine Gap", "aka": [ "Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "facility" ], "lat": -23.799, "lon": 133.737, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap, Northern Territory.", "country": "Australia", "region": "Alice Springs, Northern Territory", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The joint US–Australian satellite ground station near Alice Springs. UAPGerb says the ground element of NRO Program B was established there under Bobby Ray Inman and thinks legacy UFO programmes sit inside the NRO directorates that grew from it. Speakers call it \"Australia's Area 51\".", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb says NRO Program B consolidated NRO and CIA reconnaissance and that its ground element was established at Pine Gap.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:31:17", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "NRO program B was essentially a consolidation of reconnaissance activities between the NRO and CIA's Directorate of Science and Technology. And the ground element of NRO program B was established at Pine Gap, Australia." } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb thinks many UFO legacy programmes are housed inside the NRO directorates that replaced Programs A–D.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:32:52", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "I think a lot of UFFL legacy programs are are stuffed within these directorates." } ] } ], "first_year": 1970, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Pine Gap — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:31:17", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "NRO program B was essentially a consolidation of reconnaissance activities between the NRO and CIA's Directorate of Science and Technology. And the ground element of NRO program B was established at Pine Gap, Australia." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:32:52", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "I think a lot of UFFL legacy programs are are stuffed within these directorates." } ] }, { "slug": "lockheed-skunk-works-helendale", "name": "Lockheed Skunk Works (Palmdale / Helendale)", "aka": [ "Skunk Works", "Plant 42", "Helendale RCS range" ], "kind": "contractor", "kinds": [ "contractor", "storage" ], "lat": 34.629, "lon": -118.084, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Air Force Plant 42, Palmdale, California (Skunk Works headquarters). Helendale range lies ~70 km east.", "country": "United States", "region": "Palmdale, California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Lockheed Martin's Advanced Development Programs at Plant 42, Palmdale, with the Helendale radar-cross-section range to the east. Nick Cook says he interviewed Skunk Works head Jack Gordon inside the secret part of the site; other guests tie the company to alleged reverse-engineering work. Helendale itself is never named in the interviews.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Cook says he was invited to interview Skunk Works head Jack Gordon in the headquarters building on the secret part of the site.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "nick-cook", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "G7Ns4Aq1tVc", "ts": "1:04:35", "speaker": "Nick Cook", "speaker_slug": "nick-cook", "quote": "Jack Gordon um was then the head of the Skunk Works. So, I went to interview him and in a rare dispensation, they invited me to go and interview him in the headquarters building, which is actually on the secret part of the Skunk Works site." } ] }, { "text": "Michels says Lockheed Martin held craft materials that Harry Reid asked to have transferred to Bigelow's BAASS under AAWSAP, and that the CIA and Defense Department blocked the transfer.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1f16VvXaSSE", "ts": "0:51:55", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Harry Reid's request to get the material transferred to the assap program was totally killed because of bureaucracy and kind of fom stuff so ASAP was actually set up to transfer a UFO held by locking Martin to a special Access" } ] }, { "text": "Jesse notes that openly discussed UFO program budgets (AAWSAP's ~$22M; Kona Blue proposal scale) are implausibly small if the US actually possesses operable non-human craft — an economic inference, not a document.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "j2XxfpRuq38", "ts": "0:53:34", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Kona Blue and this idea that we were transferring assets between Lockheed Martin who had UFO material to Bigelow Aerospace. But the budgets associated with these programs are on the order of, you know, it's 20 we're talking about $22 million." } ] }, { "text": "Battelle is a verified org; Gerb's reverse-engineering babysitter implication is unverified hearsay.", "class": "FACT", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "1:50:12", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Battel Memorial Institute or Lockheed Martin.\" Uh, one his do his gray beard babysitter who would kind of have to walk him through would always appear fatigued after sometimes he he'd meet him and this guy would when he would appear fatigued." } ] }, { "text": "SPECULATION: Aerospace companies hold UAP physics knowledge not shared with academia (Prasad 'knows' it).", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "deep-prasad", "side": "scientist", "year": 2022, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "qAou_h1POWs", "ts": "0:04:13", "speaker": "Deep Prasad", "speaker_slug": "deep-prasad", "quote": "physics knowledge held by aerospace companies that is not there certainly is materials knowledge which involves topological physics eric and i had a pretty trippy conversation with the guy that briefs all of the presidents on ufos a guy named hal put off for more of that" } ] } ], "first_year": 1943, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "nick-cook", "steven-greer" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-CRAFT-0035", "N-PEOPLE-0063" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Lockheed Skunk Works (Palmdale / Helendale) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "G7Ns4Aq1tVc", "ts": "1:04:35", "speaker": "Nick Cook", "speaker_slug": "nick-cook", "quote": "Jack Gordon um was then the head of the Skunk Works. So, I went to interview him and in a rare dispensation, they invited me to go and interview him in the headquarters building, which is actually on the secret part of the Skunk Works site." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1f16VvXaSSE", "ts": "0:51:55", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Harry Reid's request to get the material transferred to the assap program was totally killed because of bureaucracy and kind of fom stuff so ASAP was actually set up to transfer a UFO held by locking Martin to a special Access" } ] }, { "slug": "battelle-columbus", "name": "Battelle Memorial Institute, Columbus", "aka": [ "Battelle" ], "kind": "contractor", "kinds": [ "contractor", "facility" ], "lat": 39.9995, "lon": -83.0188, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Battelle Memorial Institute headquarters, King Avenue, Columbus, Ohio.", "country": "United States", "region": "Columbus, Ohio", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A private research institute in Columbus, Ohio, that produced Project Blue Book Special Report 14 under Air Force contract. Speakers connect it to claimed analysis of Roswell material and to nickel-titanium \"memory metal\" work; UAPGerb lists institutions run by Battelle among FFRDCs he believes house programme work.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb names numerous institutions run by Battelle Memorial Institute among the FFRDCs he believes house programme work.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb infers that FFRDCs and DOE national labs (Sandia, Livermore, Oak Ridge, Battelle-run sites) sit above defense primes in an alleged UFO materials-custody hierarchy.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "FFRDC's examples here would be the MITER Corporation, uh numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] }, { "text": "Battelle is a verified org; Gerb's reverse-engineering babysitter implication is unverified hearsay.", "class": "FACT", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "1:50:12", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Battel Memorial Institute or Lockheed Martin.\" Uh, one his do his gray beard babysitter who would kind of have to walk him through would always appear fatigued after sometimes he he'd meet him and this guy would when he would appear fatigued." } ] } ], "first_year": 1947, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [ "blue-book-special-report-14", "project-blue-book" ], "footage": [], "events": [ "1947-roswell" ], "graph_ids": [ "N-CRAFT-0034", "N-PEOPLE-0064" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Battelle Memorial Institute, Columbus — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battelle_Memorial_Institute", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "FFRDC's examples here would be the MITER Corporation, uh numerous institutions run by Battel Memorial Institute, uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] }, { "slug": "roswell", "name": "Roswell / Foster Ranch debris field", "aka": [ "Foster Ranch", "Corona debris field" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval" ], "lat": 33.95, "lon": -105.31, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Debris-field location north of Corona, New Mexico, from published witness maps; exact spot is disputed.", "country": "United States", "region": "Lincoln / Chaves County, New Mexico", "status": "contested", "summary": "The 1947 debris recovery on the Foster ranch north-west of Roswell, New Mexico. The Air Force's 1994 report attributes it to Project Mogul; a Pentagon scientist quoted on the show says he was told it was a craft of non-human construction. Speakers describe memory metal, bodies and shipment to Wright Field.", "body_html": "Two facts are documented: the Roswell Army Air Field press release of 8 July 1947 announcing a recovered \"flying disc\", and the Air Force's 1994 and 1995 reports attributing the debris to Project Mogul balloon trains. Everything else is testimony.
On the show the Pentagon scientist interviewed by Eric Weinstein says he got programme-level confirmation that the object \"was a real craft of unknown origin\" that crashed on the Foster ranch. Michels narrates that an EG&G manager, Alfred O'Donnell, told colleagues a saucer and a live being were recovered in New Mexico, and relays accounts of material sent to Wright Field.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "The Pentagon scientist interviewed with Weinstein says he got confirmation at a programmatic level that the Roswell object was a real craft of unknown origin, adjudicated as not of human construction.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "eric-davis", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "xnxasfyHtfo", "ts": "0:10:26", "speaker": "Eric Davis", "speaker_slug": "eric-davis", "quote": "It was a real craft of unknown origin that was um adjudicated to be not of human origin or constru construct and um it crashed on that on the Foster Ranch in Cronin, Mexico. And then there's my work with Dave Drush when I was at the aerospace corporation." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that EG&G manager Alfred O'Donnell told a colleague a flying saucer and a live being with humanlike features had been recovered in New Mexico.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "0:31:00", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "that they had recovered a flying saucer in New Mexico and had a live being that had humanlike features." } ] }, { "text": "Dolan says the MJ-12 documents that surfaced in the 1980s purport to be memos to Truman describing an organisation formed to manage the UFO secret, referring to crash retrievals and Roswell.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "richard-dolan", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "GQlWf54K_7Y", "ts": "0:23:25", "speaker": "Richard Dolan", "speaker_slug": "richard-dolan", "quote": "we get these MJ12 documents which are allegedly memos to to Harry Truman or a letter signed by Harry Truman describing the formation of this organization to manage the UFO secret referring to uh crash retrievals and Roswell and and all of this." } ] }, { "text": "Asked by Michels to call each crash case real or hoax, Dolan calls Roswell real, and Kingman real.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "richard-dolan", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "GQlWf54K_7Y", "ts": "1:19:09", "speaker": "Richard Dolan", "speaker_slug": "richard-dolan", "quote": "Okay. Roswell. Oh, real. Uh Kingman. Yes, real. Um Kexburg. Yep." } ] } ], "first_year": 1947, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc" ], "beings": [ "grey" ], "people": [ "david-grusch", "eric-davis", "philip-corso", "richard-dolan" ], "documents": [ "gao-roswell-1995", "roswell-report-1994", "twining-memo-1947" ], "footage": [], "events": [ "1947-roswell" ], "graph_ids": [ "N-CRAFT-0007" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Roswell / Foster Ranch debris field — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "xnxasfyHtfo", "ts": "0:10:26", "speaker": "Eric Davis", "speaker_slug": "eric-davis", "quote": "It was a real craft of unknown origin that was um adjudicated to be not of human origin or constru construct and um it crashed on that on the Foster Ranch in Cronin, Mexico. And then there's my work with Dave Drush when I was at the aerospace corporation." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "0:31:00", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "that they had recovered a flying saucer in New Mexico and had a live being that had humanlike features." } ] }, { "slug": "kecksburg", "name": "Kecksburg", "aka": [ "Kecksburg incident" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval" ], "lat": 40.183, "lon": -79.463, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Village of Kecksburg from public gazetteer; the wooded ravine where the object was reported is within ~2 km.", "country": "United States", "region": "Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania", "status": "contested", "summary": "A village in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, where witnesses describe an acorn-shaped object recovered by the military on 9 December 1965. A NASA-linked speaker says his relative Donald Hornig, President Johnson's science adviser, appears in a government summary as present at the crash, and names Penn State's Eric Walker as another attendee.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "The NASA whistleblower says his father's cousin Donald Hornig, Johnson's chief science adviser, was listed as present in an official government summary of the Kecksburg crash.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "kevin-knuth", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "IWui5cBkwoE", "ts": "1:06:53", "speaker": "Kevin Knuth", "speaker_slug": "kevin-knuth", "quote": "Donald Hornig was was the chief scientific advisor to President Johnson. Mhm. He was president during the Kecksburg crash and I found I had actually found a document about the Kecksburg UFO and Donald Hornig was" } ] }, { "text": "He adds that Eric Walker, then president of Penn State and a materials scientist, was supposedly also present at Kecksburg.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "kevin-knuth", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "IWui5cBkwoE", "ts": "1:07:56", "speaker": "Kevin Knuth", "speaker_slug": "kevin-knuth", "quote": "I think Eric Walker was supposed supposedly present as well at the Kecksburg crash. He was the um I believe president of Penn State and he was kind of a material science guy." } ] }, { "text": "Asked by Michels to call each crash case real or hoax, Dolan says Kecksburg is real but doubts the object was the so-called Nazi Bell.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "richard-dolan", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "GQlWf54K_7Y", "ts": "1:19:09", "speaker": "Richard Dolan", "speaker_slug": "richard-dolan", "quote": "Um Kexburg. Yep. Um, that's a good one. I don't believe it was the bell." } ] } ], "first_year": 1965, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "bell-shaped" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "richard-dolan" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1965-kecksburg" ], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Kecksburg — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "IWui5cBkwoE", "ts": "1:06:53", "speaker": "Kevin Knuth", "speaker_slug": "kevin-knuth", "quote": "Donald Hornig was was the chief scientific advisor to President Johnson. Mhm. He was president during the Kecksburg crash and I found I had actually found a document about the Kecksburg UFO and Donald Hornig was" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "IWui5cBkwoE", "ts": "1:07:56", "speaker": "Kevin Knuth", "speaker_slug": "kevin-knuth", "quote": "I think Eric Walker was supposed supposedly present as well at the Kecksburg crash. He was the um I believe president of Penn State and he was kind of a material science guy." } ] }, { "slug": "rendlesham-forest", "name": "Rendlesham Forest / RAF Bentwaters–Woodbridge", "aka": [ "Bentwaters", "RAF Woodbridge", "Rendlesham incident" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": 52.08889, "lon": 1.44917, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Rendlesham Forest east gate area between RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge, from public gazetteer.", "country": "United Kingdom", "region": "Suffolk, England", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Forest between the twin US-run bases in Suffolk where airmen reported lights and a landed object in December 1980; Lt Col Charles Halt's memo to the UK Ministry of Defence is public. Michels stresses the nuclear weapons stored at Bentwaters; Lyn Buchanan says he later remote-viewed the incident.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels narrates that Lt Col Charles Halt detailed the incident in a memo to the UK Ministry of Defence, describing a security patrol seeing lights descend into the forest.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:49:41", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Lieutenant Colonel Charles halt detailed the entire incident in a memo to the UK Ministry of Defense he said that a security patrol saw strange lights descending into the nearby rendlesham Forest" } ] }, { "text": "Michels says Bentwaters held the largest group of tactical nuclear weapons stored in Western Europe at the time of the 1980 case.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:07:18", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "the bentwaters case in 1980 in England that was the largest group of tactical nuclear weapons being stored in Western Europe and it went back out" } ] }, { "text": "Buchanan says he remote-viewed the 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "1:31:18", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "didn't you remote view um the 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident? >> Oh, yeah." } ] }, { "text": "Buchanan believes Colonel John Alexander knew about Rendlesham before almost anyone else in the United States.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "1:35:57", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "I believe Colonel John Alexander knew about Rendlesham before just about anybody else in the United States." } ] } ], "first_year": 1980, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "lyn-buchanan", "robert-hastings" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1980-rendlesham-forest" ], "photo": "assets/sites/rendlesham-forest.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Rendlesham Forest / RAF Bentwaters–Woodbridge — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:49:41", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Lieutenant Colonel Charles halt detailed the entire incident in a memo to the UK Ministry of Defense he said that a security patrol saw strange lights descending into the nearby rendlesham Forest" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:07:18", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "the bentwaters case in 1980 in England that was the largest group of tactical nuclear weapons being stored in Western Europe and it went back out" } ] }, { "slug": "varginha", "name": "Varginha", "aka": [ "Varginha incident" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval", "encounter" ], "lat": -21.551, "lon": -45.43, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "City of Varginha from public gazetteer; the reported sighting sites are inside the urban area.", "country": "Brazil", "region": "Minas Gerais", "status": "contested", "summary": "A city in Minas Gerais, Brazil, where witnesses in January 1996 described a creature captured by the military. The interviews reach it only second-hand: Michels says a Varginha witness told him he handled material that returned to its shape, and a guest cites the case as one with US Air Force and CIA involvement.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels says a Varginha witness he interviewed described holding material that went back into its original form.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "2:51:48", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "I just interviewed a guy who was a witness actually of the Varginha crash in in the 1990s uh 1996 uh in Brazil and he says the same thing. He says he held the material in his hands and it went he would kind of mess with it and then it would go back into its original form." } ] }, { "text": "Michels introduces Varginha as a 1996 case in a Brazilian town with a UFO, beings and many witnesses, and says Fox's film documents the object's flight path.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "hBrfe4hFuM0", "ts": "0:01:13", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "you have a UFO, you have alien beings and you have all of these witnesses in a a town in Brazil in Venia, Brazil as late as 1996." } ] }, { "text": "Fox says a Varginha witness picked up a piece of the debris and described it as like aluminium and very light, much as Roswell witnesses did.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "hBrfe4hFuM0", "ts": "0:09:41", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "he picked up one of the pieces and he said it was like aluminum. Really light. Like you couldn't feel it. Very much like the Roswell people." } ] }, { "text": "Michels, discussing Fox's film, says the Varginha hospital witness is a well-respected neurosurgeon who is shown in the hospital pointing to the bed he says the being lay on.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "hBrfe4hFuM0", "ts": "0:03:26", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "he's a a really wellrespected neurosurgeon. And um it seems totally beyond reproach. And you see him, he's in the hospital and he's showing the bed that the alien was on." } ] } ], "first_year": 1996, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [ "varginha-being" ], "people": [ "james-fox" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1996-varginha" ], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Varginha — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "d9tdJ2SkBKQ", "ts": "2:51:48", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "I just interviewed a guy who was a witness actually of the Varginha crash in in the 1990s uh 1996 uh in Brazil and he says the same thing. He says he held the material in his hands and it went he would kind of mess with it and then it would go back into its original form." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "hBrfe4hFuM0", "ts": "0:01:13", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "you have a UFO, you have alien beings and you have all of these witnesses in a a town in Brazil in Venia, Brazil as late as 1996." } ] }, { "slug": "skinwalker-ranch", "name": "Skinwalker Ranch", "aka": [ "Sherman Ranch", "UFO Ranch" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 40.2586, "lon": -109.8894, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Contextual ranch-property anchor retained from the site register; not the coordinates, depth or outline of an underground object.", "country": "United States", "region": "Uintah Basin, Utah", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A repeatedly investigated ranch in Utah’s Uintah Basin. Fugal and participating operators describe lights, instrument anomalies and subsurface findings; the interview considers a buried-craft interpretation. The reviewed record does not establish a complete craft’s geometry or origin.", "body_html": "The ranch has successive owner-led and contracted investigations, including the NIDS and current Fugal teams. The source review separates those histories from specific modern claims about the mesa.
Named operators describe directional drilling, borehole radar and geospatial anomalies. The reviewed public material did not provide the complete raw acquisitions, sample custody and laboratory package needed to establish a continuous manufactured craft. This is a limit of this review, not a claim that no technical publication or underlying data can exist.
Source review, September 2026: Read the fixed-locations investigation for the obtained records, source differences and remaining tests.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Jesse Michels stated on camera that the Baltic Sea Anomaly and the object claimed to be under the mesa at Skinwalker Ranch exhibit the same pattern.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "2:54:15", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "It's the same thing. And so, and then this is really weird. And I didn't even put this in my Baltic Sea anomaly >> because I thought it would discredit me. It's so weird, but I'll just say it here because it's in the context. It's it there's a pattern here." } ] }, { "text": "Jesse Michels asserts a general class of geomagnetically anomalous sites where UFO reports cluster, naming Skinwalker Ranch, a mountain in Japan near Fukushima prefecture, and Hessdalen.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:26:28", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Fukushima Prefecture, their nuclear civilian grid, you always have these geomagnetic anomalies. Hessdalen, you have, you know, magnetic anomalies as well. Um so, that that is a common theme in UFOs. Yeah." } ] }, { "text": "Fugal reports a drilling approval beside the ranch despite his objection. A contemporary objection letter was obtained, but its application naming and the eventual permit/trajectory match remain unresolved here.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "1:48:24", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "county goes ahead in spite of our notice and our filing and grants them a permit right above our drill site right on the border of my property and they they descend on the property with millions of dollars worth of equipment and personnel and they it is just the most reckless" } ] }, { "text": "Jesse Michels recounts his own 2022 visit to Skinwalker Ranch seeking UFOs; encode as firsthand host testimony about the visit, not as confirmation of ranch phenomena.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2022, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "7W7iOt57fOo", "ts": "0:01:06", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "haunted off the property they encountered orbs ufos skin walkers and even got rushed by an oversized bipedal wolf that they claimed was able to withstand a close range attack from a all of this anomalous activity caught the eye of robert bigelow the vegas-based budget suites" } ] }, { "text": "An engineered, manufactured object of unknown origin is buried inside the mesa at Skinwalker Ranch.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "1:33:42", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "There's something under the mesa. I mean, to be extracting material that is manufactured that's engineered from hundreds of feet within the mesa. >> Yeah. Heat heat resistant ceramic tiles. >> Yeah." } ] }, { "text": "Fugal and the interview discuss suspected alteration of a 1969 aerial image and missing earlier imagery. Original images and a complete archive inventory were not obtained in this review.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "1:42:35", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "you can see that there's a significant spot that it thinks [music] is has been dithered or smoothed with some sort of filter in the 1969 image that's not in the other images. the the photos were doctorred but specifically in this kind of teardrop shape which is" } ] }, { "text": "A healthy calf died on Skinwalker Ranch with elevated radiation readings around the carcass, simultaneous malfunction of two phones running different operating systems, and an unidentified object visible above it in surveillance footage.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "0:31:42", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "They had different type, one had a Samsung >> device and one had an iPhone. So, different operating systems, both behaving strangely at the same time. And then upon testing the uh the the calf, it was really interesting. We couldn't" } ] }, { "text": "Ground-penetrating radar and soil resistivity at Skinwalker Ranch were commissioned to test pre-existing local rumours of a cave system or tunnels under the mesa, not on the expectation of finding exotic material.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "1:39:58", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "It wasn't because we thought there was any exotic material. It was because there were rumors going back to the the Bigalow era and even before going back to the Meyers that there was a cave system that there were tunnels that there was something covered up that there had been a" } ] }, { "text": "Jesse's Skinwalker visit episode documents his attempt to observe anomalies on-site; absence of a confirmed instrumented capture in the short episode is itself a finding.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2022, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "7W7iOt57fOo", "ts": "0:00:35", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "in the 19th century the area primarily consisted of two indian tribes the navajo and the youths during the civil war the utes partnered with the us government in a battle against the navajo suffering a brutal defeat and feeling betrayed the navajo cursed the local land with" } ] } ], "first_year": 1994, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "brandon-fugal", "george-knapp", "robert-bigelow", "travis-taylor" ], "documents": [ "aatip-dia-papers" ], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/skinwalker-ranch.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0001" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Skinwalker Ranch — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker_Ranch", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "2:54:15", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "It's the same thing. And so, and then this is really weird. And I didn't even put this in my Baltic Sea anomaly >> because I thought it would discredit me. It's so weird, but I'll just say it here because it's in the context. It's it there's a pattern here." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:26:28", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Fukushima Prefecture, their nuclear civilian grid, you always have these geomagnetic anomalies. Hessdalen, you have, you know, magnetic anomalies as well. Um so, that that is a common theme in UFOs. Yeah." } ] }, { "slug": "giza-plateau", "name": "Giza Plateau", "aka": [ "Khafre pyramid", "Osiris Shaft", "Great Pyramid" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 29.9761, "lon": 31.1309, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Giza pyramid complex.", "country": "Egypt", "region": "Giza Governorate", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The pyramid field west of Cairo. Guests on the show discuss claimed subsurface structures under the Khafre pyramid, the Osiris Shaft, and alternative dating of the monuments. The plateau is a documented archaeological site; the claimed deep structures rest on disputed radar work and are treated here as contested.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Filippo Biondi stated on camera that his team measured eight hollow cylindrical structures in a 4+4 arrangement descending over one kilometre beneath the Khafre pyramid, with chambers roughly 80 m wide at the bottom.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "filippo-biondi", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zrmG2jBckgk", "ts": "0:04:56", "speaker": "Filippo Biondi", "speaker_slug": "filippo-biondi", "quote": "We are counting at the moment uh uh four + 4 cubes that are descending underneath and they are connecting the top. So the base of the pyramid to something that is located" } ] }, { "text": "Biondi accepted on camera that his Osiris-shaft reconstruction carried roughly 4 m of measurement error against the known structure.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "filippo-biondi", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "NvQXmtcwHA8", "ts": "3:15:41", "speaker": "Filippo Biondi", "speaker_slug": "filippo-biondi", "quote": "But because any any measurement is affected by errors and aberration. You remember that you are watching things that is propagating in matter. So you're just saying this is within the margin of error. Is the best of what we can retrieve today. Well, sure." } ] } ], "first_year": 2025, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/giza-plateau.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-ANCIENT-0006", "N-ANCIENT-0023", "N-SITES-0005" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Giza Plateau — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_pyramid_complex", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zrmG2jBckgk", "ts": "0:04:56", "speaker": "Filippo Biondi", "speaker_slug": "filippo-biondi", "quote": "We are counting at the moment uh uh four + 4 cubes that are descending underneath and they are connecting the top. So the base of the pyramid to something that is located" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "NvQXmtcwHA8", "ts": "3:15:41", "speaker": "Filippo Biondi", "speaker_slug": "filippo-biondi", "quote": "But because any any measurement is affected by errors and aberration. You remember that you are watching things that is propagating in matter. So you're just saying this is within the margin of error. Is the best of what we can retrieve today. Well, sure." } ] }, { "slug": "hessdalen", "name": "Hessdalen Valley", "aka": [ "Hessdalen lights" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 62.7833, "lon": 11.2, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Hessdalen valley, Holtålen municipality, from public gazetteer.", "country": "Norway", "region": "Trøndelag", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A valley in central Norway where unexplained lights have been recorded since 1981 and monitored by the Project Hessdalen automatic station since 1998. Speakers on the show cite it as the best-instrumented recurring light phenomenon; explanations offered range from plasma to piezoelectric effects, none accepted as settled.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Jesse Michels asserts a general class of geomagnetically anomalous sites where UFO reports cluster, naming Skinwalker Ranch, a mountain in Japan near Fukushima prefecture, and Hessdalen.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:26:28", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Fukushima Prefecture, their nuclear civilian grid, you always have these geomagnetic anomalies. Hessdalen, you have, you know, magnetic anomalies as well. Um so, that that is a common theme in UFOs. Yeah." } ] } ], "first_year": 1981, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "plasma-light" ], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/hessdalen.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0008" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Hessdalen Valley — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessdalen_lights", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:26:28", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Fukushima Prefecture, their nuclear civilian grid, you always have these geomagnetic anomalies. Hessdalen, you have, you know, magnetic anomalies as well. Um so, that that is a common theme in UFOs. Yeah." } ] }, { "slug": "baltic-sea-anomaly", "name": "Baltic Sea Anomaly", "aka": [ "Ocean X anomaly" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": null, "lon": null, "precision": "unplaced", "coord_source": "The previously inherited point was not supported by an obtained expedition coordinate record. Gulf of Bothnia is the reported region; no precise object/search fix is plotted in this review.", "country": "Reported Gulf of Bothnia region; exact jurisdiction not verified", "region": "Bothnian Sea", "status": "contested", "summary": "A roughly 60-metre sonar feature reported by Ocean X in 2011. Åsberg describes unusual geometry and equipment problems. Its identity and relationship to underlying strata remain disputed; original survey files and complete laboratory reports were not obtained here.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Jesse Michels stated on camera that the Baltic Sea Anomaly and the object claimed to be under the mesa at Skinwalker Ranch exhibit the same pattern.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "2:54:15", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "It's the same thing. And so, and then this is really weird. And I didn't even put this in my Baltic Sea anomaly >> because I thought it would discredit me. It's so weird, but I'll just say it here because it's in the context. It's it there's a pattern here." } ] }, { "text": "Åsberg interprets sub-bottom profiling as showing separation from underlying strata. The original profiles and independent interpretation were not obtained in this review.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:49:25", "speaker": "Dennis Asberg", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "quote": "How do you know that it's sub-bottom profiling have we done. Mhm. >> Yeah. So, we can see the layers. Mhm. Wow. Yep. Amazing. That's really incredible that it's definitely separated from the So, it is an ob- it's not a geological formation. >> The data say that. That's amazing." } ] }, { "text": "Warships from multiple NATO countries encircled the Ocean X vessel at the Baltic Sea Anomaly site, and Swedish military headquarters later told Asberg they had never been there.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:41:06", "speaker": "Dennis Asberg", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "quote": "It's NATO. It was French and German and American and British ships around us. >> Yep. And then also a Swedish coast corvette go quite close to us. >> Suddenly we saw in the distance that this must be some [music] kind of navy ship heading" } ] }, { "text": "Åsberg describes radiation measurement as planned, rather than reporting a result, in this interview.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:56:52", "speaker": "Dennis Asberg", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "quote": "Have you brought a Geiger counter down or measured radioactive activity? >> time. We're going to do. >> You will? Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. This is so fascinating. What do you do you want this to be a contribution to humanity or what what do you want for for this? the truth." } ] } ], "first_year": 2011, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "dennis-asberg" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0002" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Baltic Sea Anomaly — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Sea_anomaly", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "2:54:15", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "It's the same thing. And so, and then this is really weird. And I didn't even put this in my Baltic Sea anomaly >> because I thought it would discredit me. It's so weird, but I'll just say it here because it's in the context. It's it there's a pattern here." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "0:49:25", "speaker": "Dennis Asberg", "speaker_slug": "dennis-asberg", "quote": "How do you know that it's sub-bottom profiling have we done. Mhm. >> Yeah. So, we can see the layers. Mhm. Wow. Yep. Amazing. That's really incredible that it's definitely separated from the So, it is an ob- it's not a geological formation. >> The data say that. That's amazing." } ], "body_html": "Source review, September 2026: Read the fixed-locations investigation for the obtained records, source differences and remaining tests.
" }, { "slug": "malmstrom-afb", "name": "Malmstrom AFB / Oscar Flight", "aka": [ "Oscar Flight", "Echo Flight" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter", "base" ], "lat": 47.505, "lon": -111.187, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Malmstrom AFB main base from public gazetteer; the Oscar Flight launch control facility lies ~50 km to the south-east.", "country": "United States", "region": "Great Falls, Montana", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A Minuteman missile base near Great Falls, Montana. Robert Salas says that on 24 March 1967 his guards reported a glowing oval object over the Oscar Flight gate and that the missiles then went down one at a time. Robert Hastings, whose father served there, built his UFOs-and-nukes research from this case.", "body_html": "Salas was a deputy missile combat crew commander in 1967. His account — a security guard describing a bright oval object over the gate, then ten missiles dropping off alert — is the best-known single case in the UFOs-and-nuclear-weapons literature and has been repeated in Congress-adjacent briefings.
The Air Force acknowledged the Echo Flight shutdown of 16 March 1967 and attributed it to an electronic fault; the Oscar Flight event Salas describes is not in the released record, which is why the incident remains contested while the base is verified.
", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Salas says that after the first missile went to no-go, all of them went down one at a time.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "robert-salas", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "-0g3lLGxNfc", "ts": "0:00:33", "speaker": "Robert Salas", "speaker_slug": "robert-salas", "quote": "No go. Can't launch it. And right after that one went down, all of them went down one at a time." } ] }, { "text": "Salas says the guard described a solid, oval-shaped object inside the bright light over the gate.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "robert-salas", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "-0g3lLGxNfc", "ts": "0:13:06", "speaker": "Robert Salas", "speaker_slug": "robert-salas", "quote": "I said, \"Try to look inside the light and see if there's a solid object in there.\" Um, he said it's it's really difficult because it's so bright, but it looks like there's some kind of a solid object in there. Oval shaped is what he said." } ] }, { "text": "Hastings says his father was stationed at Malmstrom in 1967 and got him a job in the base air traffic control tower.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:11:33", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "my father was career Air Force and in 1967 he was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force the time he got me a job at the air traffic control tower on the base as a janitor" } ] }, { "text": "Hastings traces his research origin to 1967 Malmstrom AFB (father stationed; teenage tower job) and a later Hynek article on Minot nuclear-missile UFO activity that matched what he thought he saw.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:11:33", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "UFOs showing up around nuclear sites my father was career Air Force and in 1967 he was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force the time he got me a job at the air traffic control tower on the base as a janitor at one point I made the acquaintance of an FAA supervisor named grasser one" } ] }, { "text": "The episode presents the March 1967 Malmstrom Oscar-flight missile shutdown narrative as a core nuclear-UFO case involving missiles going 'no-go' during a UFO event.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "red and I said it looks like we got a UFO UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities and energy grids around the world from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah riversite to Royal Air Force bases in the UK and nuclear sites" } ] } ], "first_year": 1967, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "robert-hastings", "robert-salas" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1967-malmstrom-shutdown" ], "graph_ids": [ "N-CASES_EXP-0043" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Malmstrom AFB / Oscar Flight — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmstrom_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "-0g3lLGxNfc", "ts": "0:00:33", "speaker": "Robert Salas", "speaker_slug": "robert-salas", "quote": "No go. Can't launch it. And right after that one went down, all of them went down one at a time." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "-0g3lLGxNfc", "ts": "0:13:06", "speaker": "Robert Salas", "speaker_slug": "robert-salas", "quote": "I said, \"Try to look inside the light and see if there's a solid object in there.\" Um, he said it's it's really difficult because it's so bright, but it looks like there's some kind of a solid object in there. Oval shaped is what he said." } ] }, { "slug": "nimitz-carrier-group-2004", "name": "Nimitz Carrier Group 2004 (sea area)", "aka": [ "Tic Tac encounter", "USS Nimitz incident" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": 31.5, "lon": -117.6, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Open-ocean operating area off Baja California from the released Navy reports; no fixed point exists.", "country": "International waters (Pacific)", "region": "off Baja California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Pacific training area south-west of San Diego where, in November 2004, USS Princeton radar tracked objects and Cmdr David Fravor's flight visually engaged a white \"Tic Tac\" object. The FLIR1 video from a second flight is public. Speakers on the show treat it as the anchor military case.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Jesse Michels framed the episode as covering landmark Navy cases — Nimitz FLIR, Gimbal, and GoFast from the USS Roosevelt — between West and Marik.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "0:04:20", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "I'm like my goodness uh there's something to this um and that was that was really kind of the the the kind of the twin uh tickets down the rabbit hole, dug into the history and and started writing articles about it. Awesome." } ] }, { "text": "In the 2004 Nimitz account as narrated on-channel, Aegis radar (Kevin Day), ATFLIR (Chad Underwood), and pilot visual (Fravor) form a multi-sensor chain around a tic-tac object.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "8Rr_nE65KkI", "ts": "0:47:33", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Chad Underwood catching the thing with forward looking infrared. You have Kevin Day who's catching the thing with with radar on the USS Princeton. You have a whole chain of custody and you have all these different kind of you know multiensory corroborating things." } ] }, { "text": "Mick West's base determination for the three Navy videos (FLIR1, Gimbal, GoFast) is that they do not demonstrate amazingly anomalous physics.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "0:44:47", "speaker": "Mick West", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "quote": "we don't understand or advanced technology? And then after you've answered that question or you addressed that question, the other question is what actually is it? What might it be?" } ] }, { "text": "Mick West analyzed FLIR1's end-of-video departure as a loss-of-lock plus zoom change: after undoing the 2x→1x zoom, the object drifts with the camera rather than accelerating.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "0:55:10", "speaker": "Mick West", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "quote": "zoom levels kind of halfway through the movement. if you kind of undo that zoom back from two times to one time, it just basically smoothly goes off." } ] }, { "text": "Mick West stated that Fravor's visual tic-tac encounter and Underwood's FLIR1 recording are two separate events hours apart and may not be the same object.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "0:45:51", "speaker": "Mick West", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "quote": "went through it frame by frame and I think I showed fairly conclusively that all those things are just camera So and do you really think David Fraver saw just a normal aircraft? No, I don't think so. No, these are two separate things." } ] }, { "text": "Marik von Rennenkampff argued FLIR1 cannot be a conventional plane because the silhouette lacks a tail and shows an attitude no airliner/F-18 would hold at the implied speed.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "marik-von-rennenkampff", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "1:01:26", "speaker": "Marik von Rennenkampff", "speaker_slug": "marik-von-rennenkampff", "quote": "it it kind of looks like that. you know, it's not. Maybe you understand my point, right? I think it's misleading. I think it's misleading to keep I've added that to the description of the video. Nobody's going to read it. Okay, let's move on." } ] }, { "text": "Mick West stated that after undoing FLIR1's zoom change, the object's drift matched the camera's drift, implying the 'zip off' is not object acceleration.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "0:55:43", "speaker": "Mick West", "speaker_slug": "mick-west", "quote": "but it uh it isn't actually moving. Mick, are you familiar with Yonx's analysis that it actually drifts off drifts off? It moves off four times faster at the very end than it does during the other losses of luck." } ] }, { "text": "Young Jamie describes a personal UAP interest path via Gimbal/GoFast/Nimitz media and Bob Lazar on Rogan's show — distribution-path FACT about how UAP narratives spread.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "young-jamie", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "SZBI85yvV5A", "ts": "0:05:20", "speaker": "Young Jamie", "speaker_slug": "young-jamie", "quote": "Gimbal and is it Nimmits? The other one go fast. Yeah. And then it's just been this like slow bleed of listening to Joe Rogan's podcast and hearing Bob Lazar and like that's interesting. But that was like the first story or um that I'd heard about it." } ] } ], "first_year": 2004, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "tic-tac" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "christopher-mellon", "david-fravor", "luis-elizondo" ], "documents": [], "footage": [ "flir1" ], "events": [ "2004-nimitz-tic-tac", "2017-nyt-aatip-disclosure" ], "graph_ids": [ "N-CRAFT-0049", "N-SWEEP_B-0014" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Nimitz Carrier Group 2004 (sea area) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Nimitz_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "0:04:20", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "I'm like my goodness uh there's something to this um and that was that was really kind of the the the kind of the twin uh tickets down the rabbit hole, dug into the history and and started writing articles about it. Awesome." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "8Rr_nE65KkI", "ts": "0:47:33", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Chad Underwood catching the thing with forward looking infrared. You have Kevin Day who's catching the thing with with radar on the USS Princeton. You have a whole chain of custody and you have all these different kind of you know multiensory corroborating things." } ] }, { "slug": "phoenix", "name": "Phoenix", "aka": [ "Phoenix Lights" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": 33.4484, "lon": -112.074, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "City of Phoenix from public gazetteer; sightings ran along a corridor from the Nevada line to Tucson.", "country": "United States", "region": "Arizona", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Arizona city over which thousands of people reported a silent V-shaped formation of lights on 13 March 1997. Documentary maker James Fox describes breaking the story, a bank of six lights over Sky Harbor airport, and an object said to span more than a mile; officials later attributed lights to military flares.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Fox recounts that on 13 March 1997 thousands of people in Phoenix witnessed a massive V-shaped formation of lights moving silently, and that officials claimed military flares.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "1:22:03", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "March 13th in 1997 thousands of people in Phoenix Arizona witnessed a massive v-shaped formation of Lights moving silently across the sky known as the Phoenix Lights the phenomenon sparked widespread speculation about UFOs while some officials claimed the lights were military flares" } ] }, { "text": "Fox says witnesses described the object as over a mile from wing tip to wing tip.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "1:22:03", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "because it was over a mile from wing tip to wind tip this is the famous Phoenix Lights Phenix light 1997" } ] }, { "text": "Fox describes a bank of six lights in a triangle over Sky Harbor airport and says he broke the story.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "1:23:38", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "there's these Bank of Lights six lights in the shape of a triangle going back right over the airport there's a lot there yeah huge so anyway so I break this" } ] } ], "first_year": 1997, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "black-triangle", "boomerang-chevron" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "james-fox" ], "documents": [], "footage": [ "phoenix-lights-1997" ], "events": [ "1997-phoenix-lights" ], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Phoenix — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "1:22:03", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "March 13th in 1997 thousands of people in Phoenix Arizona witnessed a massive v-shaped formation of Lights moving silently across the sky known as the Phoenix Lights the phenomenon sparked widespread speculation about UFOs while some officials claimed the lights were military flares" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "1:22:03", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "because it was over a mile from wing tip to wind tip this is the famous Phoenix Lights Phenix light 1997" } ] }, { "slug": "kandahar-cave", "name": "Kandahar cave (Afghanistan)", "aka": [ "Kandahar giant" ], "kind": "control", "kinds": [ "control", "encounter" ], "lat": 31.61, "lon": 65.71, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Province-level pin only; the story gives no coordinates and no witness has named the valley.", "country": "Afghanistan", "region": "Kandahar Province", "status": "unverified", "summary": "Mountains of Kandahar province where, in a story Tim Alberino says an anonymous pilot told him on camera in silhouette, US soldiers killed a \"giant\" in about 2005 and its body was flown out via Bagram to a base in Qatar. No unit, location or document has been produced; the account is second-hand.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Alberino says a pilot, filmed in silhouette, told him the story that became known as the Kandahar Giant, and that he flew classified missions into Bagram Airfield.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:14:12", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "he told us uh the story that has since become known as the Kandahar Giant. It's grown into a mythology on the internet, right? But this is where it begins. And he would fly missions into into Bagram Airfield" } ] }, { "text": "Alberino says the pilot told him the giant was airlifted from the Kandahar region to Bagram, loaded onto his aircraft and flown to a base in Qatar.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:19:54", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "the the giant was airlifted from the Kandahar region and and deposited at Bagram to be picked up by the pilot. And um so, he he loaded the giant onto the aircraft, and then they they transferred it to Qatar. A base in Qatar," } ] }, { "text": "Alberino says the pilot was sure the being was dead and that it had been shot.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:20:25", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "And he was sure that the being was dead while he was >> dead. Yeah, it was definitely dead. Was it shot? Yes. They They They Yeah, they they filled it full of ammunition." } ] }, { "text": "Alberino says the pilot heard second-hand that the giant ended up at Wright-Patterson, adding that he did not know if it was true.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:20:25", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "I heard through the grapevine the giant ended up at Wright-Patterson. He said, \"I don't know if it's true, but that's what I heard." } ] } ], "first_year": 2005, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [ "nephilim-watcher" ], "people": [ "tim-alberino" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/kandahar-cave.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0012" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Kandahar cave (Afghanistan) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:14:12", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "he told us uh the story that has since become known as the Kandahar Giant. It's grown into a mythology on the internet, right? But this is where it begins. And he would fly missions into into Bagram Airfield" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uwMg8Usq0Ko", "ts": "3:19:54", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "the the giant was airlifted from the Kandahar region and and deposited at Bagram to be picked up by the pilot. And um so, he he loaded the giant onto the aircraft, and then they they transferred it to Qatar. A base in Qatar," } ] }, { "slug": "swedish-ghost-rocket-lakes", "name": "Swedish ghost-rocket lakes, 1946 (Lake Kölmjärv)", "aka": [ "Lake Kölmjärv", "Kölmjärv", "Ghost rockets" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval", "anomaly" ], "lat": 66.4167, "lon": 22.5, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Approximate inherited Kölmjärv regional locator; the original gazetteer citation and exact search fix were not obtained in this review.", "country": "Sweden", "region": "Norrbotten", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Lake Kölmjärv in Norrbotten, where witnesses on 19 July 1946 described a grey rocket-like object falling into the water, stands for the scatter of Swedish lakes searched during the \"ghost rocket\" wave. Clas Svahn says a three-week military search recovered nothing. Speakers treat the wave as the first modern retrieval hunt.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Svahn says Swedish military teams searched several lakes during the 1946 wave, found bottom indentations and recovered no debris.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:08:34", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "in 1946, as we talked about the ghost rockets, uh, the military were looking for them in several different lakes around Sweden. All they found were indentations at the bottom. >> Not a single debris, not anything, not anything like that or like the V piece." } ] } ], "first_year": 1946, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "cigar-cylinder" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "clas-svahn" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1946-ghost-rockets" ], "photo": "assets/sites/swedish-ghost-rocket-lakes.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0009" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Swedish ghost-rocket lakes, 1946 (Lake Kölmjärv) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_rockets", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:08:34", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "in 1946, as we talked about the ghost rockets, uh, the military were looking for them in several different lakes around Sweden. All they found were indentations at the bottom. >> Not a single debris, not anything, not anything like that or like the V piece." } ], "body_html": "Source review, September 2026: Read the fixed-locations investigation for the obtained records, source differences and remaining tests.
" }, { "slug": "northern-sweden-lake-1980", "name": "Nammajaure — 1980 landing report", "aka": [ "Nammajaure", "Damaya (legacy automatic-caption rendering)" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter", "anomaly", "retrieval" ], "lat": null, "lon": null, "precision": "unplaced", "coord_source": "Lake identity established from Clas Svahn’s own project account and linked to the 1980 case. The old 67.85,20.2 regional placeholder was not a lake fix and is withdrawn. No surveyed target coordinate was obtained in this review.", "country": "Sweden", "region": "Norrbotten", "status": "contested", "summary": "Bo Berg and Liz Hellström reported a rocket-like object turning and sinking in Nammajaure, Muddus national park, in 1980. Svahn documents searches in 2012 and 2014: natural sonar targets, followed by unresolved buried radar echoes. No craft was recovered in those accounts.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Svahn says that in 1980 an object landed and sank in a lake in the far north of Sweden, and that his team has been there and has radar returns of something in the mud.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:47:17", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "I mean in 1980 there was a landing and an object that um sank in a lake up in the very north of Sweden called Damaya. >> And we have been there and we have radar returns that something is in the mud." } ] }, { "text": "Svahn says the two witnesses photographed the lake about two minutes after the object had sunk, then reported the case to the Swedish military.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:47:47", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "they take a picture two minutes after the object is gone. They go back to uh Stockholm." } ] }, { "text": "Svahn describes roughly four metres of bottom mud and interprets a buried radar return as the object; this is not a recovery.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:48:53", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "But the object is there. It's 4 m of mud." } ] }, { "text": "Svahn reports subsurface echoes at Nammajaure; his project history distinguishes 2012 natural sonar targets from 2014 unresolved buried echoes. Their composition and connection to the 1980 sighting are not established.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:47:17", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "in 1980 there was a landing and an object that um sank in a lake up in the very north of Sweden called Damaya. >> And we have been there and we have radar returns that something is in the mud. >> Yeah. So >> when are you going to go look? >> We'll be there again next year." } ] } ], "first_year": 1980, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "clas-svahn" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0003" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:47:17", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "I mean in 1980 there was a landing and an object that um sank in a lake up in the very north of Sweden called Damaya. >> And we have been there and we have radar returns that something is in the mud." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ERiwHz_Gw3Q", "ts": "0:47:47", "speaker": "Clas Svahn", "speaker_slug": "clas-svahn", "quote": "they take a picture two minutes after the object is gone. They go back to uh Stockholm." }, { "kind": "external", "title": "Clas Svahn — Norrlandsprojektet", "url": "https://www.ufo.se/index.php/om-ufo-sverige/verksamhetu/projekt/norrlandsprojektet" }, { "kind": "external", "title": "Bo Berg — Riksarkivet Arkivpodden", "url": "https://riksarkivet.se/resurser/spokraketer" } ], "body_html": "The formerly unresolved caption name is Nammajaure. Svahn’s project history dates the sighting to 31 July 1980 and reproduces the witness diary; Berg’s later Riksarkivet podcast instead recalls August. His interview date recollection also differs. These source differences remain visible in the investigation.
The 2012 elongated sonar targets proved natural on inspection. The 2014 survey described separate buried echoes; the weak magnetometer response did not securely identify metal or a rocket. These are not the 1946 Kölmjärv searches.
Source review, September 2026: Read the fixed-locations investigation for the obtained records, source differences and remaining tests.
" }, { "slug": "bradshaw-ranch-sedona", "name": "Bradshaw Ranch / Secret Mountain, Sedona", "aka": [ "Bradshaw Ranch", "Secret Mountain", "Sedona" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly", "base" ], "lat": 34.91206635, "lon": -111.9296058, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "NAU SEGA dataset DOI 10.5063/f1mp51f2: research-plot anchor only. This is not a tunnel entrance or Secret Mountain coordinate.", "country": "United States", "region": "Coconino County, Arizona", "status": "contested", "summary": "A former ranch and documented NAU ecological research site near Sedona. Coulthart proposes an underground connection, but the original follow-up instrument account is narrower than his later 50-foot-wide tunnel description. His separate too-large-to-move UFO story has no disclosed location.", "body_html": "NAU published metadata for plant surveys conducted here in May–July 2017. The research-site coordinates are published with that dataset; they do not locate an alleged tunnel.
In the May 2025 NewsNation segment, an already proposed tunnel alignment guides a small follow-up survey. Operator Paul Duggan describes uncertain shallow features. Coulthart’s later description of a 50-foot-wide reinforced tunnel is not demonstrated by that segment. Width, depth and survey footprint must remain separate.
The huge, immovable UFO discussed later in the American Alchemy interview is an unlocated claim, not a Bradshaw discovery.
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", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Coulthart says he is in no doubt that a deep underground military bunker was built under Secret Mountain near Sedona.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "ross-coulthart", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "V00WcEiKRAY", "ts": "1:21:28", "speaker": "Ross Coulthart", "speaker_slug": "ross-coulthart", "quote": "I am in no doubt whatsoever, Jesse, that there is a deep underground military bunker that was built in the Uh-huh. under Secret Mountain." } ] }, { "text": "An opening montage juxtaposes Secret Mountain and the remote-viewing base narrative. This excerpt does not establish Secret Mountain as one of Price’s original four targets; those are Hayes, Zeil, Perdido and Nyangani.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:00:35", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "The four major alien bases on the Earth. One in Mount Hayes, Alaska. Mount Zeal in Australia. >> Secret mountain near Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, Arizona." } ] }, { "text": "Coulthart describes a 50-foot-wide reinforced structure near the surface. This is his interpretation; the original published follow-up describes a roughly three-foot scan footprint and uncertain features, not a demonstrated 50-foot tunnel.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "ross-coulthart", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "V00WcEiKRAY", "ts": "1:27:10", "speaker": "Ross Coulthart", "speaker_slug": "ross-coulthart", "quote": "He did a ground penetrating radar check on the road around Bradshaw Ranch, and we found a 50-ft wide reinforced steel concrete, highly visible on ground penetrating radar. Literally just under the ground. Wow. I mean, I'm in no doubt whatsoever it's there. Can you get down" } ] } ], "first_year": 1990, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "lyn-buchanan", "ross-coulthart" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/bradshaw-ranch-sedona.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0004" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Bradshaw Ranch / Secret Mountain, Sedona — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedona,_Arizona", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "V00WcEiKRAY", "ts": "1:21:28", "speaker": "Ross Coulthart", "speaker_slug": "ross-coulthart", "quote": "I am in no doubt whatsoever, Jesse, that there is a deep underground military bunker that was built in the Uh-huh. under Secret Mountain." }, { "kind": "external", "title": "NAU SEGA plant survey — Bradshaw Ranch", "url": "https://experts.nau.edu/en/datasets/sega-plant-survey-bradshaw-ranch/" }, { "kind": "external", "title": "Original NewsNation instrument segment, 33:23", "url": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIgxuiVkzrk&t=2003s" } ] }, { "slug": "mount-wilson-ranch-nevada", "name": "Mount Wilson Ranch, Nevada", "aka": [ "Mount Wilson" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 38.16, "lon": -114.51, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Mount Wilson Ranch in Lincoln County, Nevada, on the east flank of the Wilson Creek Range; a named working ranch, but its extent is large and no single gate is cited in the corpus.", "country": "United States", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A working ranch in Lincoln County, Nevada, which Brandon Fugal says Robert Bigelow bought at about the same time as Skinwalker Ranch. Fugal describes computer servers, destroyed by heat, found buried on the property during his team's investigation. The ranch is a real property; the buried finds rest on Fugal's account.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Computer servers that had been completely destroyed by heat were found buried under the Mount Wilson Ranch property in Nevada, along with an unearthed rail system.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "2:15:02", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "we uncovered evidence that there there was activity uh predated there was a cover up. I mean we're talking about fried uh computers computer servers that were completely fried and buried deep within under the property." } ] } ], "first_year": 2026, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "brandon-fugal", "robert-bigelow" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/mount-wilson-ranch-nevada.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0006" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Mount Wilson Ranch, Nevada — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County%2C_Nevada", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uYyXpx7ADJQ", "ts": "2:15:02", "speaker": "Brandon Fugal", "speaker_slug": "brandon-fugal", "quote": "we uncovered evidence that there there was activity uh predated there was a cover up. I mean we're talking about fried uh computers computer servers that were completely fried and buried deep within under the property." } ] }, { "slug": "lake-baikal", "name": "Lake Baikal", "aka": [ "Baikal divers story" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter", "anomaly" ], "lat": 53.5, "lon": 108.0, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Broad lake-context marker retained from the registry; no verified encounter coordinate was acquired.", "country": "Russia", "region": "Siberia", "status": "unverified", "summary": "A reported 1982 encounter with tall underwater figures, transmitted through named intermediaries and later retellings. The acquired 1993 article does not include original diver testimony, casualty records or a reproduced military order. It establishes no fixed base or precise dive site.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels recounts the lore that Soviet divers in 1982 went down in Lake Baikal to look for something and met tall humanoid figures.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "1:15:50", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Do you know the story of like Soviet divers going down to like look for something and they get petr- like they meet these tall tall human- I mean, it's uh interesting. When was that? In '82. >> Yeah." } ] } ], "first_year": 1982, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/lake-baikal.jpg", "graph_ids": [ "N-SITES-0011" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Lake Baikal — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "aGqFOxuYRT0", "ts": "1:15:50", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Do you know the story of like Soviet divers going down to like look for something and they get petr- like they meet these tall tall human- I mean, it's uh interesting. When was that? In '82. >> Yeah." }, { "kind": "external", "title": "Paul Stonehill — Soviet Underwater Mysteries, UFO Encounters 1(7), 1993, pp.7–8,18", "url": "https://files.afu.se/Downloads/Magazines/United%20States/UFO%20Encounters%20%28Michael%20Norris%29/UFO%20Encounters%20-%20Vol%2001%20No%2007%20-%201993.pdf" } ], "body_html": "Source review, September 2026: Read the fixed-locations investigation for the obtained records, source differences and remaining tests.
" }, { "slug": "yakama-reservation", "name": "Yakama Indian Reservation", "aka": [ "Toppenish Ridge lights" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 46.35, "lon": -120.55, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Reservation centroid from public boundary data; light reports clustered around Toppenish Ridge.", "country": "United States", "region": "Yakima County, Washington", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Reservation land in south-central Washington where fire lookouts and tribal members reported recurring nocturnal lights through the 1970s, documented by ufologist Greg Long and studied by J. Allen Hynek's associates. The interviews do not mention it; this record comes from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1972, "last_year": 1980, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/yakama-reservation.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Yakama Indian Reservation — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakama_Indian_Reservation", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "mels-hole", "name": "Mel's Hole", "aka": [ "Mel's Hole, Ellensburg area, Kittitas County, Washington" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 46.99, "lon": -120.73, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Manastash Ridge area named by the caller; no verified location exists.", "country": "United States", "region": "Kittitas County, Washington", "status": "unverified", "summary": "A supposedly bottomless hole near Ellensburg, Washington, described by a caller to Coast to Coast AM in 1997. No hole matching the account has been located and the caller's identity was never verified; the record exists as a folklore control and is not discussed in the interviews.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1997, "last_year": 1997, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Mel's Hole — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel%27s_Hole", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "dyatlov-pass", "name": "Dyatlov Pass", "aka": [ "Dyatlov Pass, northern Ural Mountains" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 61.75444, "lon": 59.445, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Pass and memorial location from public gazetteer.", "country": "Russia", "region": "Sverdlovsk Oblast", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A pass in the northern Urals where nine hikers died in February 1959. A 2019–20 Russian inquiry attributed the deaths to a slab avalanche; UFO explanations circulated because of reported \"fire orbs\" in the area. The interviews do not mention it; this record comes from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1959, "last_year": 2020, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/dyatlov-pass.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Dyatlov Pass — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "zone-of-silence", "name": "Zona del Silencio", "aka": [ "Zone of Silence", "Mapimí" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 26.683, "lon": -103.75, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Mapimí Biosphere Reserve area from public gazetteer.", "country": "Mexico", "region": "Durango", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A patch of the Chihuahuan Desert in Durango, Mexico, said to block radio signals and attract meteorites; the claims grew after a 1970 US Athena rocket fell there. Scientific surveys found nothing unusual. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1970, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/zone-of-silence.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Zona del Silencio — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Silence", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "brown-mountain", "name": "Brown Mountain", "aka": [ "Brown Mountain lights" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 35.92, "lon": -81.75, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Brown Mountain summit from public gazetteer.", "country": "United States", "region": "Burke County, North Carolina", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A ridge in the Pisgah National Forest, North Carolina, where lights have been reported since at least 1913. US Geological Survey studies attributed most to trains, cars and brush fires. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1913, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/brown-mountain.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Brown Mountain — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Mountain_Lights", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "marfa", "name": "Marfa", "aka": [ "Marfa lights" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 30.275, "lon": -103.883, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Official viewing area on US 90 east of Marfa, from public gazetteer.", "country": "United States", "region": "Presidio County, Texas", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A West Texas town whose \"Marfa lights\" have been reported since the 1880s. A 2004 university study matched observed lights to vehicle headlights on US 67. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1883, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/marfa.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Marfa — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_lights", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "min-min", "name": "Min Min (Boulia)", "aka": [ "Min Min light" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": -22.91, "lon": 139.91, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Boulia district from public gazetteer; sightings spread over hundreds of km.", "country": "Australia", "region": "Queensland", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Outback Queensland, where travellers have reported a following light since the 19th century. A 2003 study reproduced the effect as a Fata Morgana mirage of distant lights. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1838, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/min-min.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Min Min (Boulia) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Min_light", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "shag-harbour", "name": "Shag Harbour", "aka": [ "Shag Harbour, Nova Scotia (1967 incident)" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval", "encounter" ], "lat": 43.508333, "lon": -65.75, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Reported last-sighting position in RCC 076, 5 October 1967; not a surveyed wreck or entrance.", "country": "Canada", "region": "Nova Scotia", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A fishing village in Nova Scotia where witnesses saw an object with lights enter the water on 4 October 1967. The Royal Canadian Navy searched the seabed and Canadian government files on the case are public. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1967, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1967-shag-harbour" ], "photo": "assets/sites/shag-harbour.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Shag Harbour — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shag_Harbour_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "external", "title": "RCC Halifax UFO Report, 5 October 1967 — original LAC scan", "url": "https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e110/e002749390.jpg" } ], "body_html": "Source review, September 2026: Read the fixed-locations investigation for the obtained records, source differences and remaining tests.
" }, { "slug": "yonaguni-monument", "name": "Yonaguni Monument", "aka": [ "Yonaguni Monument, Japan" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 24.435833, "lon": 123.011389, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Dive site south of Yonaguni from published dive coordinates.", "country": "Japan", "region": "Okinawa Prefecture", "status": "contested", "summary": "A submerged rock formation off Yonaguni, Japan, with terrace-like faces. One geologist argues it was worked by humans; most attribute it to natural fracturing of sandstone. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1986, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/yonaguni-monument.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Yonaguni Monument — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni_Monument", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "bimini-road", "name": "Bimini Road", "aka": [ "Bimini Road, Bahamas" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 25.766967, "lon": -79.278826, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Published dive-site coordinates off North Bimini.", "country": "Bahamas", "region": "Bimini", "status": "contested", "summary": "A line of limestone blocks in shallow water off North Bimini, Bahamas, found in 1968 and promoted as a remnant of Atlantis. Geologists identify it as naturally fractured beachrock. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1968, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/bimini-road.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Bimini Road — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimini_Road", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "bosnian-pyramid-visocica", "name": "Visočica hill (\"Bosnian pyramid\")", "aka": [ "Bosnian pyramid", "Pyramid of the Sun" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": 43.97694, "lon": 18.17611, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Visočica hill from public gazetteer.", "country": "Bosnia and Herzegovina", "region": "Visoko", "status": "contested", "summary": "A hill above Visoko, Bosnia, promoted since 2005 by Semir Osmanagić as a man-made pyramid. Geologists and archaeologists identify it as a natural flatiron formation. Not discussed in the interviews; included from public sources only.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 2005, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/bosnian-pyramid-visocica.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Visočica hill (\"Bosnian pyramid\") — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "ongs-hat", "name": "Ong's Hat", "aka": [ "Ong's Hat, Burlington County, New Jersey" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly", "control" ], "lat": 39.91083, "lon": -74.62083, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Ghost-town location from public gazetteer.", "country": "United States", "region": "Burlington County, New Jersey", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A ghost town in the New Jersey Pine Barrens attached to an internet-era legend about a dimensional-travel cult. Its author, Joseph Matheny, has described the story as an early transmedia fiction. Included as a folklore control; not discussed in the interviews.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1988, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Ong's Hat — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ong%27s_Hat", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "camp-hero-montauk", "name": "Camp Hero / Montauk Air Force Station", "aka": [ "Montauk Air Force Station", "Montauk Project" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "anomaly", "control" ], "lat": 41.06222, "lon": -71.87389, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Radar-station site at Montauk Point from public gazetteer; the SAGE radar tower is visible on imagery.", "country": "United States", "region": "Suffolk County, New York", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A decommissioned Air Force radar station at Montauk Point, New York, now a state park. It anchors the \"Montauk Project\" legend of secret experiments, which began with a 1992 book and has no documentary support. Included from the atlas as a folklore control; the station is real, the experiments are not documented. Not discussed in the interviews.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1942, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Camp Hero / Montauk Air Force Station — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Air_Force_Station", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "piedmont-missouri", "name": "Piedmont, Missouri (Project Identification)", "aka": [ "Project Identification" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly", "encounter" ], "lat": 37.15389, "lon": -90.69583, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Town of Piedmont, Wayne County, from public gazetteer; observation posts were spread over the surrounding hills.", "country": "United States", "region": "Wayne County, Missouri", "status": "contested", "summary": "A wave of night-light reports around Piedmont in 1973 led physicist Harley Rutledge to run Project Identification, a field study with cameras and instruments over several years. Rutledge published unexplained residual cases; sceptics point to aircraft, stars and expectation. Included from the earlier atlas; not discussed in the interviews.", "what_is_claimed": [], "first_year": 1973, "last_year": 1981, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "harley-rutledge" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "photo": "assets/sites/piedmont-missouri.jpg", "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Piedmont, Missouri (Project Identification) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Rutledge", "publisher": "Wikipedia" } ] }, { "slug": "tonopah-test-range", "name": "Tonopah Test Range (Area 52)", "aka": [ "Area 52", "TTR" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base" ], "lat": 37.795, "lon": -116.78, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Tonopah Test Range airfield, Nye County, Nevada.", "country": "United States", "region": "Nye County, Nevada", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A Sandia-operated test range in the northern Nevada Test and Training Range where the F-117 was based in secret in the 1980s. UAPGerb lists it, with Area 51 and \"allegedly S4\", among the sites the range houses. Public and documented.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb says the Nevada Test and Training Range houses the Tonopah Test Range alongside Area 51 and allegedly S-4, plus Sandia-run numbered areas.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "that houses the Tonapa test range. All sorts of weird little Sandia run sites. Um the numbered areas." } ] } ], "first_year": 1957, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Tonopah Test Range (Area 52) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonopah_Test_Range", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "that houses the Tonapa test range. All sorts of weird little Sandia run sites. Um the numbered areas." } ] }, { "slug": "holloman-white-sands", "name": "Holloman AFB / White Sands", "aka": [ "Holloman Air Force Base", "White Sands Missile Range" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "encounter" ], "lat": 32.8525, "lon": -106.1065, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Holloman AFB, Alamogordo; White Sands range begins immediately west.", "country": "United States", "region": "Otero County, New Mexico", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Holloman Air Force Base and the adjoining White Sands Missile Range in southern New Mexico. Speakers on the show recount the long-running story of a 1955 or 1964 landing at Holloman filmed by the Air Force; James Fox and Hal Puthoff both discuss it. The bases are documented; the landing story is not.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Fox says he interviewed a Pentagon public-relations officer (Colonel Coleman) from the 1970s in connection with Holloman/related film circulation stories.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "0:35:30", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "Paul got a call from a guy named Colonel um Colonel Coleman it was a guy I interviewed who was uh public relations at the Pentagon in the 70s I interviewed Coleman about it and um he yeah his story his recollection but anyway he he had called I guess the debase hey these guys" } ] }, { "text": "Fox explicitly says he did not believe one Holloman-style landing case as described (pods, ramp, three aliens), illustrating his selective skepticism inside pro-UFO filmmaking.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "0:27:38", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "out came three aliens I did not believe that case landing at holon and the beans come out and interact with base commanders I was like please and that those these were Nordic beings right well they were described as like uh cuz I actually talked to a guy Alan Sandler who saw the" } ] } ], "first_year": 1942, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "hal-puthoff", "jake-barber", "james-fox" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-SWEEP_A-0043" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Holloman AFB / White Sands — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holloman_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "0:35:30", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "Paul got a call from a guy named Colonel um Colonel Coleman it was a guy I interviewed who was uh public relations at the Pentagon in the 70s I interviewed Coleman about it and um he yeah his story his recollection but anyway he he had called I guess the debase hey these guys" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "0:27:38", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "out came three aliens I did not believe that case landing at holon and the beans come out and interact with base commanders I was like please and that those these were Nordic beings right well they were described as like uh cuz I actually talked to a guy Alan Sandler who saw the" } ] }, { "slug": "edwards-afb", "name": "Edwards Air Force Base", "aka": [ "Muroc", "Edwards AFB" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base" ], "lat": 34.9054, "lon": -117.8839, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Edwards AFB main base, Kern County, California.", "country": "United States", "region": "Kern County, California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The flight-test centre on Rogers Dry Lake, California. Charles Hall recounts the story that President Eisenhower was shown five spacecraft there in 1954; UAPGerb notes Edwards is among the sites Greer names and that the naming traces to Bill Hamilton; Greer describes tunnels reaching it from Nellis.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Hall recounts the story that when Eisenhower was president there was a day, said by British sources to be at Edwards, when spacecraft were shown to him.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "charles-hall", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "1:29:41", "speaker": "Charles Hall", "speaker_slug": "charles-hall", "quote": "Because we're told that when Ike Eisenhower was president that there was a day that we're told publicly by ancient aliens and the US press and so on that there was a day at the British guys said it was at Edwards" } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb lists the Edwards 412th Test Wing among the sites where he believes programme work is distributed.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards 412 test wing out of Edwards Air Force Base, China Lake, uh Puxent River, um and" } ] }, { "text": "Greer says underground connectors run from Nellis and Area 51 to Edwards.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "areO7Mej44E", "ts": "2:28:02", "speaker": "Steven Greer", "speaker_slug": "steven-greer", "quote": "you have connectors from Nellis Area 51 to Edwards go underground." } ] } ], "first_year": 1954, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "charles-hall", "steven-greer" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Edwards Air Force Base — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QgxjtDS2sIQ", "ts": "1:29:41", "speaker": "Charles Hall", "speaker_slug": "charles-hall", "quote": "Because we're told that when Ike Eisenhower was president that there was a day that we're told publicly by ancient aliens and the US press and so on that there was a day at the British guys said it was at Edwards" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards 412 test wing out of Edwards Air Force Base, China Lake, uh Puxent River, um and" } ] }, { "slug": "china-lake", "name": "Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake", "aka": [ "China Lake NAWS" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "facility" ], "lat": 35.6855, "lon": -117.692, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: NAWS China Lake, Kern County, California.", "country": "United States", "region": "Kern County, California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Navy's weapons test station in the Mojave Desert. UAPGerb lists it with Edwards and Dugway among sites where he believes programme work is distributed, and says Greer's naming of China Lake traces to earlier researcher Bill Hamilton. Documented base; the programme claim is inference.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb lists China Lake with Edwards and Patuxent River among sites tied to what Grusch has described.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards 412 test wing out of Edwards Air Force Base, China Lake, uh Puxent River, um and" } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb says Greer's naming of Edwards, China Lake and Dugway comes from earlier claims by Bill Hamilton.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "0:48:47", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards Air Force Base, not really Wright Patterson, China Lake, uh, Dougway Proving Grounds, all of these sites. And you can see direct direct quotes from ah and Hamilton that have made it their way into Greer's research." } ] } ], "first_year": 1943, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "steven-greer" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Air_Weapons_Station_China_Lake", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards 412 test wing out of Edwards Air Force Base, China Lake, uh Puxent River, um and" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nTiFs8LudUo", "ts": "0:48:47", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "Edwards Air Force Base, not really Wright Patterson, China Lake, uh, Dougway Proving Grounds, all of these sites. And you can see direct direct quotes from ah and Hamilton that have made it their way into Greer's research." } ] }, { "slug": "cheyenne-mountain", "name": "Cheyenne Mountain Complex", "aka": [ "NORAD bunker" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "control" ], "lat": 38.7442, "lon": -104.8464, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Cheyenne Mountain Space Force Station portal, Colorado Springs.", "country": "United States", "region": "El Paso County, Colorado", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The NORAD bunker inside Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado — the publicly acknowledged deep underground military installation. Michels and UAPGerb point to it as the acknowledged example that such bases exist; UAPGerb says deep underground bases sit under national labs across the US. Included as a control for claimed bases.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels points to the Cheyenne Mountain complex as the obvious public example of a deep underground military installation.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "1:39:08", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "look no further than like Cheyenne Mountain complex." } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb says underground installations under national labs and sensitive sites across the US are not a conspiracy theory.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "1:39:08", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "That's not a conspiracy like under national labs and under sensitive sites all over the US. We have underground" } ] } ], "first_year": 1966, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Cheyenne Mountain Complex — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain_Complex", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "1:39:08", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "look no further than like Cheyenne Mountain complex." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "1:39:08", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "That's not a conspiracy like under national labs and under sensitive sites all over the US. We have underground" } ] }, { "slug": "pentagon", "name": "The Pentagon", "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility", "control" ], "lat": 38.871, "lon": -77.056, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: The Pentagon, Arlington County, Virginia.", "country": "United States", "region": "Arlington, Virginia", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "US Department of Defense headquarters in Arlington, Virginia. In the interviews it is the institution rather than a site of sightings: Grusch describes offices objecting to the phrase \"crash retrievals\" in his clearance review; Michels narrates how Elizondo and Mellon got three UAP videos cleared for release in 2017.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Grusch describes how an office reviewing his disclosures would have had to object explicitly to his saying \"crash retrievals\", citing a security classification guide.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "david-grusch", "side": "intelligence", "year": 2023, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "kRO5jOa06Qw", "ts": "0:18:29", "speaker": "David Grusch", "speaker_slug": "david-grusch", "quote": "this office objected to you saying crash retrievals. Here we're citing the security classification guide." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that Elizondo and Christopher Mellon got three UFO videos cleared for release by the Pentagon and took them to the New York Times in 2017.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1f16VvXaSSE", "ts": "0:07:28", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "they got three UFO videos cleared for release by the Pentagon they took those videos to the New York Times for a bombshell article that was released in 2017" } ] } ], "first_year": 1947, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "christopher-mellon", "david-grusch", "luis-elizondo" ], "documents": [ "aaro-historical-record-report-2024", "aatip-dia-papers", "grusch-testimony-2023" ], "footage": [ "flir1", "gimbal", "gofast" ], "events": [ "2017-nyt-aatip-disclosure", "2023-grusch-hearing" ], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "The Pentagon — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "kRO5jOa06Qw", "ts": "0:18:29", "speaker": "David Grusch", "speaker_slug": "david-grusch", "quote": "this office objected to you saying crash retrievals. Here we're citing the security classification guide." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1f16VvXaSSE", "ts": "0:07:28", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "they got three UFO videos cleared for release by the Pentagon they took those videos to the New York Times for a bombshell article that was released in 2017" } ] }, { "slug": "langley-cia", "name": "CIA Headquarters, Langley", "aka": [ "Langley", "George Bush Center for Intelligence" ], "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility" ], "lat": 38.9517, "lon": -77.1467, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: CIA headquarters, Langley, Fairfax County, Virginia.", "country": "United States", "region": "Fairfax County, Virginia", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The CIA campus in Langley, Virginia. Joe McMoneagle says a remote-viewing report he filed with the National Security Council was returned by the head Russia analyst at Langley, Robert Gates; UAPGerb mentions a triangle craft reported over Langley by Dylan Borland. The place is documented.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "McMoneagle says a remote-viewing report filed with the National Security Council came back through the head analyst of the Russia floor at Langley, Robert Gates.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "joe-mcmoneagle", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JpLThEF2dTM", "ts": "1:07:30", "speaker": "Joe McMoneagle", "speaker_slug": "joe-mcmoneagle", "quote": "filed that report with the National Security Council it was sent back immediately the the head analyst was the guy in charge of the whole Russian floor at Langley his name is Robert Gates yeah Langley CIA" } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb refers to Dylan Borland's account of a triangle he saw over Langley while discussing electro-optic cloaking.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:17:46", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "I think to Dylan Borland and he's talking about the triangle he saw over Langley." } ] } ], "first_year": 1961, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "black-triangle" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "joe-mcmoneagle" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "CIA Headquarters, Langley — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_Center_for_Intelligence", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JpLThEF2dTM", "ts": "1:07:30", "speaker": "Joe McMoneagle", "speaker_slug": "joe-mcmoneagle", "quote": "filed that report with the National Security Council it was sent back immediately the the head analyst was the guy in charge of the whole Russian floor at Langley his name is Robert Gates yeah Langley CIA" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "zMOQ8n6WvL8", "ts": "0:17:46", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "I think to Dylan Borland and he's talking about the triangle he saw over Langley." } ] }, { "slug": "livermore-llnl", "name": "Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory", "aka": [ "LLNL", "Lawrence Livermore" ], "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility" ], "lat": 37.687, "lon": -121.706, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: LLNL main site, Livermore, California.", "country": "United States", "region": "Alameda County, California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A Department of Energy weapons laboratory east of San Francisco Bay. UAPGerb lists Livermore, with Sandia, Oak Ridge and Battelle-run institutions, among the FFRDCs where he believes programme work is housed; Hastings names it among sites with UFO reports. Documented laboratory; the programme claim is inference.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "UAPGerb names Lawrence Livermore among the FFRDC laboratories he believes house programme work.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] }, { "text": "Hastings names Lawrence Livermore, Edwards and Camp Pendleton among sites where he says the objects seen were UFOs.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "1:08:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "Lawrence Livermore lab Edwards Air Force Base and Marine Corps base Camp Pendleton I don't want to sound like like I'm an an all all knowing Guru about UFOs but those are UFOs" } ] } ], "first_year": 1952, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Livermore_National_Laboratory", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "1:08:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "Lawrence Livermore lab Edwards Air Force Base and Marine Corps base Camp Pendleton I don't want to sound like like I'm an an all all knowing Guru about UFOs but those are UFOs" } ] }, { "slug": "oak-ridge", "name": "Oak Ridge National Laboratory", "aka": [ "ORNL", "Oak Ridge" ], "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility" ], "lat": 35.931, "lon": -84.31, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: ORNL main campus, Oak Ridge, Tennessee.", "country": "United States", "region": "Anderson / Roane County, Tennessee", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Tennessee laboratory born of the Manhattan Project. Hastings lists Oak Ridge among nuclear sites where UFOs have consistently been reported since the 1940s; UAPGerb lists it among FFRDC labs where he believes programme work sits. Documented site; the claims are inference from historical reports.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Hastings says UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities, listing Los Alamos, Hanford, Oak Ridge, Malmstrom and Minot.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities and energy grids around the world from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah riversite to Royal Air Force bases in the UK and nuclear sites in the former Soviet Union" } ] }, { "text": "UAPGerb names Oak Ridge among the FFRDC laboratories he believes house programme work.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] } ], "first_year": 1943, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "robert-hastings" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Oak Ridge National Laboratory — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Ridge_National_Laboratory", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities and energy grids around the world from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah riversite to Royal Air Force bases in the UK and nuclear sites in the former Soviet Union" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "u7g5Sn1DJF4", "ts": "0:10:30", "speaker": "UAPGerb", "speaker_slug": "uapgerb", "quote": "uh Sandia, Lawrence Liverour, Oak Ridge, Department of Energy, National Nuclear Security Administration, National Labs." } ] }, { "slug": "hanford-site", "name": "Hanford Site", "aka": [ "Hanford Ordnance Works", "Hanford Nuclear Reservation" ], "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility", "encounter" ], "lat": 46.55, "lon": -119.49, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Site centroid from public boundary data; the complex covers ~1,500 km².", "country": "United States", "region": "Benton County, Washington", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The plutonium production complex in Washington State. Robert Hastings says pilots scrambled in the late 1940s were told a bogey sat right over the Hanford Ordnance Works and lists Hanford among nuclear sites with recurring UFO reports. Documented site; the reports rest on veterans' testimony.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Hastings recounts veterans telling him that a bogey was right over the Hanford Ordnance Works when they were scrambled.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:13:36", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "when we got down there they told us that this bogey was out there right over the Hanford Ordinance Works and directed" } ] }, { "text": "Hastings lists Hanford among nuclear facilities where UFOs consistently appear.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "side": "researcher", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah" } ] } ], "first_year": 1945, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "robert-hastings" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Hanford Site — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:13:36", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "when we got down there they told us that this bogey was out there right over the Hanford Ordinance Works and directed" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:02:06", "speaker": "Robert Hastings", "speaker_slug": "robert-hastings", "quote": "from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah" } ] }, { "slug": "vandenberg-big-sur", "name": "Vandenberg / Big Sur (1964 Atlas test)", "aka": [ "Vandenberg AFB", "Big Sur film" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter", "base" ], "lat": 34.742, "lon": -120.5724, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Vandenberg Space Force Base; the Big Sur camera site lies ~200 km north.", "country": "United States", "region": "Santa Barbara County, California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The California launch site whose September 1964 Atlas test, filmed from Big Sur, is the subject of Lt Robert Jacobs' account of an object circling a dummy warhead. Jacobs and Michels describe the film and its classification on the show. The base and test are documented; the film is not public.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Richard Barr testified that he served as a USAF air policeman in the 4392nd Combat Defense Squadron at Vandenberg AFB in 1963-65, that his DD-214 and service records exist, and that Robert Hastings vetted him, including calling three friends to confirm the account predated any public telling.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "0:16:21", "speaker": "Richard Barr", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "quote": "gave it to to Robert Hastings >> by Robert Hastings and uh that was one of the things you know he's very very >> uh when you read his book >> he each case is well documented is thorough when he vets he vets each person that he interviews >> he's extremely thorough >> and" } ] }, { "text": "Barr testified that on a foggy night in September 1964, at Minuteman site D5, a trench-coated figure emerged from the fog, his right arm went paralyzed when he tried to draw his .38, he passed out, and he came to in a circular room where he was told telepathically not to look at the beings.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "0:30:27", "speaker": "Richard Barr", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "quote": "I tried to pull my pistol and my right arm was paralyzed. I couldn't move it. I could move my body, but I couldn't move my arm and I became more terrified. And it became closer to" } ] }, { "text": "Barr testified that years later he blew a chrome-plated BB-like ball out of his nose, and that during 2001 nasal surgery the surgeon reported something in his right nostril 'so hard I almost couldn't break through it', which was suctioned out and discarded without analysis.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "1:10:11", "speaker": "Richard Barr", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "quote": "I found something in your right nostril that was so hard I almost couldn't break through it.\" He said, \"It was the damnest thing, you know, and he was saying, you know, I've done this for many years. I've never seen anything like it or encountered anything like it.\" Whatever" } ] }, { "text": "The host inferred that the recurrence of UAP reports at nuclear sites — Vandenberg, Malmstrom, Loring, Ellsworth — is non-random and indicates focused interest in nuclear weapons.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "1:21:13", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "So, Vandenberg is definitely a hot spot. It's one of these places like Malmstrom uh you know base in Montana where throughout the years you have recurring patterns of UFO sightings. So >> I do think there is some sort of intimate connection there. >> Oh yeah." } ] }, { "text": "Robert Jacobs recounts being tasked at Vandenberg in 1964 to film an Atlas missile launch with a large tracking telescope and later describing an anomalous object interacting with the warhead/reentry vehicle imagery.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "robert-jacobs", "side": "military", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "fzvwBBSmWYA", "ts": "0:25:50", "speaker": "Robert Jacobs", "speaker_slug": "robert-jacobs", "quote": "thing fast forward to 1964 we're on vandenbberg Air Force Base in California called Atlas testing dummy nuclear warheads being launched from intercontinental ballistic missiles a photo instrumentation specialist Lieutenant Bob Jacobs was tasked with capturing the launch of two" } ] }, { "text": "Barr was taken aboard a craft hovering over Vandenberg and given an anti-nuclear message by non-human beings.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "0:51:20", "speaker": "Richard Barr", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "quote": "they're not going to let it, you know, go to nuclear war. They needed to stop these missiles from launching. They were trying to get the data on how to was their task then. And that there wasn't they weren't going to allow these missiles to be launched." } ] } ], "first_year": 1964, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "robert-hastings", "robert-jacobs" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-CASES_EXP-0047", "N-CASES_EXP-0030", "N-CASES_EXP-0044" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Vandenberg / Big Sur (1964 Atlas test) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandenberg_Space_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "0:16:21", "speaker": "Richard Barr", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "quote": "gave it to to Robert Hastings >> by Robert Hastings and uh that was one of the things you know he's very very >> uh when you read his book >> he each case is well documented is thorough when he vets he vets each person that he interviews >> he's extremely thorough >> and" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Qe8br8yYEDM", "ts": "0:30:27", "speaker": "Richard Barr", "speaker_slug": "richard-barr", "quote": "I tried to pull my pistol and my right arm was paralyzed. I couldn't move it. I could move my body, but I couldn't move my arm and I became more terrified. And it became closer to" } ] }, { "slug": "ellsworth-afb", "name": "Ellsworth AFB", "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter", "base" ], "lat": 44.145, "lon": -103.104, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Ellsworth AFB, Meade County, South Dakota.", "country": "United States", "region": "Rapid City, South Dakota", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A Minuteman base near Rapid City, South Dakota. Veterans interviewed on the show describe objects over launch facilities, including the 1977 Mario Woods case, and Hastings recounts his collection of security-police reports. The base is documented; the incidents rest on witness testimony and partial records.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Woods testified that around 9:15-9:40 p.m. he exchanged light signals with a stationary object east of the November control facility — four rounds of facility-light flashes answered by off-on patterns — with partner Michael Johnson present and flight security controller Bill Hollman inside on the phone.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:09:28", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "all of a sudden this thing goes out on out on out and on and it just sent shivers up me and I went wow they do see me so I literally thought it okay cuz I've had them do Wing waves at me before like fighter aircraft or helicopters they'll do a little swing like that at" } ] }, { "text": "Woods testified that at the site they found a sphere 'the size of a Walmart building' ten feet over the blast door, that a light release nearly blinded him and stopped his breathing, that a black vented ball bounced around the truck, that an ammonia stench filled the cab, and that he saw four gliding beings — three small identical ones and a taller one with a pulsating chest device — before blacking out.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:30:59", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "I see these four I'm going to call them beings and they are not walking as you and I walk they are just gliding across the ground maybe I don't know how high off the ground I couldn't really see that but they have these little Uniforms on and the one on the far right he had some" } ] }, { "text": "Woods testified that Johnson sat catatonic with eyes open gripping the steering wheel through the event and for hours after, that Woods checked his pulse and put a finger in his ear without response, and that Johnson told him weeks later he had seen and heard everything — the craft, the black sphere, the smell, 'do not fear' — but could not move.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "1:11:34", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "he saw the craft he saw the black sphere in front of the vehicle jumping up and down he smelled the smell he heard do not fear he heard" } ] }, { "text": "Mario Woods testified that in November 1977 he was a 23-year-old PRP-cleared security policeman at Ellsworth AFB working Minuteman sites, with no mental-health history, subject to the Personnel Reliability Program's screening, random blood tests and urinalysis.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:02:44", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "anyone that works around any type of nuclear devices uh Weaponry or construction of or the storage of uh nuclear components whatever it may be plutonium uranium or" } ] }, { "text": "Woods testified that at about 12:15 a.m. a two-pronged alarm (above-ground and below-ground sensors) at launch facility November 5 dispatched him and Johnson to the site.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:15:12", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "sit for November 5 which is a two-pronged alarm it's an above ground and a below ground sensor that has been affected and as I said the temperature was between 9 and 13 degrees that night so it was cold sat on my long johns fatigue pants and shirt you know and uh" } ] }, { "text": "Woods testified that three alert teams searched for them, that wing security control requested outside assistance bringing two Sturgis sheriff's deputies and a state trooper, and that the base triangulated their position through 20-25 radio location checks.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:38:47", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "not only did they were they searching for us but Wing security control or the or base control or whoever they were asked for a federal or state assistance so they sent out two Deputy officers from Sturgis and one state trooper that that area was his area and I've I've got a guy" } ] }, { "text": "Woods testified that his debrief in Colonel Spraker's office included the deputy base commander, an unnamed man in a gray tweed suit, OSI Captain Jack Reed, and new OSI man Rick Doty; that the incident was declared classified; that he signed a non-disclosure agreement; and that he was refused a copy of his own written report.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "1:06:23", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "this was a this was now a classified incident mhm it's what" } ] }, { "text": "Woods testified that two flight surgeons examined him with OSI behind a divider, checked his gums first at length, noted burns above his right eye and on the back of his right hand, and clipped skin samples from both into corked stainless cylinders.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "1:02:47", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "you have a couple of burns on your body right and I said excuse me he goes yeah above your right eye and on the back of your right hand well I didn't have a glove on this hand and then my Beret came down like this you know as my Beret was on my head and it" } ] } ], "first_year": 1977, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "mario-woods", "robert-hastings" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-CASES_EXP-0105", "N-CASES_EXP-0104", "N-CASES_EXP-0078" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Ellsworth AFB — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellsworth_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:09:28", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "all of a sudden this thing goes out on out on out and on and it just sent shivers up me and I went wow they do see me so I literally thought it okay cuz I've had them do Wing waves at me before like fighter aircraft or helicopters they'll do a little swing like that at" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "73YBwFvcmF8", "ts": "0:30:59", "speaker": "Mario Woods", "speaker_slug": "mario-woods", "quote": "I see these four I'm going to call them beings and they are not walking as you and I walk they are just gliding across the ground maybe I don't know how high off the ground I couldn't really see that but they have these little Uniforms on and the one on the far right he had some" } ] }, { "slug": "loring-afb", "name": "Loring AFB", "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter", "base" ], "lat": 46.95, "lon": -67.886, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: former Loring AFB, Limestone, Maine.", "country": "United States", "region": "Aroostook County, Maine", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A former Strategic Air Command bomber base in northern Maine. In the Allagash interview, one witness says the base had a 1975 or 1976 episode with craft overhead and beams that seemed to map the nuclear area; Michels notes it lies 90 miles from their site. Base documented; the reports rest on testimony and released Air Force messages.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "One of the Allagash witnesses, unnamed in the transcript, says Loring AFB had an episode in 1975 or 1976 in which craft came over the base and beams appeared to map the nuclear area.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "allagash-witness", "side": "civilian", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QkuDvTFN7ms", "ts": "1:59:15", "speaker": "Allagash witness (unnamed in transcript)", "speaker_slug": "allagash-witness", "quote": "had a uh uh episode it was either 1975 or 1976 where craft were coming over the base and these laser type beams were coming out and they were mapping the nuclear" } ] }, { "text": "Michels, interviewing the Allagash witnesses, says the Air Force base 90 miles from their site reported UFOs within a year or two of their experience.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QkuDvTFN7ms", "ts": "1:59:46", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "So 90 miles away you had this Air Force Base. They reported UFOs showing up within a year or two of your experience" } ] } ], "first_year": 1975, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1976-allagash" ], "graph_ids": [ "N-CASES_EXP-0050", "N-CASES_EXP-0042" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Loring AFB — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loring_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QkuDvTFN7ms", "ts": "1:59:15", "speaker": "Allagash witness (unnamed in transcript)", "speaker_slug": "allagash-witness", "quote": "had a uh uh episode it was either 1975 or 1976 where craft were coming over the base and these laser type beams were coming out and they were mapping the nuclear" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "QkuDvTFN7ms", "ts": "1:59:46", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "So 90 miles away you had this Air Force Base. They reported UFOs showing up within a year or two of your experience" } ] }, { "slug": "daniels-park-colorado", "name": "Daniels Park, Colorado", "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": 39.48, "lon": -104.92, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Daniels Park from public gazetteer; the account does not fix a spot within the park.", "country": "United States", "region": "Douglas County, Colorado", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A Denver Mountain Park south of the city. John Blitch, a retired Army officer, describes a 1995 mountain-bike ride near the park, weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing, that ended in missing time, and notes the park adjoins a Native American burial ground. Park documented; the episode is his testimony.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Blitch testified that in 1995, weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing, a mountain-bike ride near Daniel's Park, Colorado produced at least five hours of missing time, that his wife searched the ridgeline and filed a missing-person report, and that a police officer located him at a 7-Eleven and radioed in that he was found.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "john-blitch", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "yAvD5UTziTo", "ts": "0:41:36", "speaker": "John Blitch", "speaker_slug": "john-blitch", "quote": "your wife called in a missing person's report and so if it's okay with you you I'm going to radio in that that we have found you and uh you know would you like a ride home now the ego says hell no you never accept a ride" } ] } ], "first_year": 1995, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "john-blitch" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-CASES_EXP-0049" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Daniels Park, Colorado — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniels_Park", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "yAvD5UTziTo", "ts": "0:41:36", "speaker": "John Blitch", "speaker_slug": "john-blitch", "quote": "your wife called in a missing person's report and so if it's okay with you you I'm going to radio in that that we have found you and uh you know would you like a ride home now the ego says hell no you never accept a ride" } ] }, { "slug": "norton-afb", "name": "Norton AFB", "aka": [ "Norton Air Force Base" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base" ], "lat": 34.0954, "lon": -117.235, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: former Norton AFB (now San Bernardino International Airport).", "country": "United States", "region": "San Bernardino, California", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A closed Air Force logistics base in San Bernardino, California. James Fox recounts that a film of an object at Holloman was shown there to two producers, and that men in suits arrived the next day, took the footage and told them never to speak of it. Base documented, closed 1994; the film story is second-hand.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Fox recounts that film shown at Norton AFB was confiscated by men in suits the same day or next morning after being shown to witnesses — encoded as Fox's recounted investigation, not as proven confiscation.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "0:36:03", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "at Norton Air Force Base and men in suits either later that day or the very next morning showed up confiscated the footage and said don't ever talk about it and do you know who the men in suits work for no idea I'm just telling you what what what he told me and Paul charl few" } ] } ], "first_year": 2024, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "james-fox" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-SWEEP_A-0042" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Norton AFB — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Air_Force_Base", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "bVhSPH2A5Vw", "ts": "0:36:03", "speaker": "James Fox", "speaker_slug": "james-fox", "quote": "at Norton Air Force Base and men in suits either later that day or the very next morning showed up confiscated the footage and said don't ever talk about it and do you know who the men in suits work for no idea I'm just telling you what what what he told me and Paul charl few" } ] }, { "slug": "san-vito-italy", "name": "San Vito dei Normanni Air Station", "aka": [ "San Vito Air Station" ], "kind": "facility", "kinds": [ "facility", "base" ], "lat": 40.65, "lon": 17.7, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "San Vito dei Normanni air station from public gazetteer.", "country": "Italy", "region": "Puglia", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A former US Air Force signals station in Puglia, Italy, with a large circular \"elephant cage\" antenna. Michels says his researchers identified it as the first overseas base of Dan Sherman's Project Preserve Destiny, and Sherman confirmed on camera it was one of the bases where he was stationed. Station documented; the programme rests on his testimony.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels says that after reading Sherman's book his researchers found the decaying elephant-cage antenna on Google Earth and identified the first Project Preserve Destiny base as San Vito dei Normanni.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Rfmy5oW_r9c", "ts": "3:17:30", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "The so-called elephant cage was basically just a large structure which surrounded a huge antenna or receiver, and we now know this base was San Vito de Normy Air" } ] }, { "text": "Asked by Michels whether the first Project Preserve Destiny base he was at was San Vito dei Normanni in southern Italy, Sherman said it was one of the bases he was stationed at.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "dan-sherman", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Rfmy5oW_r9c", "ts": "3:16:59", "speaker": "Dan Sherman", "speaker_slug": "dan-sherman", "quote": "Destiny base that you were at San Vido >> in s southern Italy? >> That is one of the bases that I was stationed at." } ] } ], "first_year": 1992, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "dan-sherman" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-CASES_EXP-0051" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "San Vito dei Normanni Air Station — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Vito_dei_Normanni_Air_Station", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Rfmy5oW_r9c", "ts": "3:17:30", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "The so-called elephant cage was basically just a large structure which surrounded a huge antenna or receiver, and we now know this base was San Vito de Normy Air" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "Rfmy5oW_r9c", "ts": "3:16:59", "speaker": "Dan Sherman", "speaker_slug": "dan-sherman", "quote": "Destiny base that you were at San Vido >> in s southern Italy? >> That is one of the bases that I was stationed at." } ] }, { "slug": "colares-brazil", "name": "Colares (Operação Prato)", "aka": [ "Operation Saucer" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": -0.936, "lon": -48.283, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Colares town from public gazetteer; reports spread along the Pará coast.", "country": "Brazil", "region": "Pará", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "An island town at the mouth of the Amazon where residents in 1977 reported lights and burns; the Brazilian Air Force ran Operação Prato and released files in 2005. Guests on the show recount the case. Town and operation documented; the phenomena unexplained.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Aldo Rebelo, former Brazilian Minister of Defense, appears on American Alchemy and, in Jesse's framing and Rebelo's own on-camera remarks, affirms major Brazilian UFO cases as real and says he would continue that stance if elected president.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "aldo-rebelo", "side": "government", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nqLnEVcZ8vE", "ts": "0:07:44", "speaker": "Aldo Rebelo", "speaker_slug": "aldo-rebelo", "quote": "do the same if I am elected president of Brazil. So, I'm very excited to be here. Thank you for having me. It's an honor. >> Thank you so much, Jesse. And welcome. Welcome to Brazil. I know it's your first time here in my country. So, welcome." } ] }, { "text": "Jesse summarizes Operação Prato / Colares as a multi-month Brazilian Air Force investigation of incidents affecting on the order of 200 people with reported burns and puncture wounds.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nqLnEVcZ8vE", "ts": "0:01:40", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "loss, and puncture wounds. a multi-month event affecting 200 [music] people. So serious that the Air Force ran a real investigation on it called Operation incursions of 1986, an unforgettable night for the Brazilian And then there's Virginia, Brazil's very own modernday Roswell." } ] } ], "first_year": 1977, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-SWEEP_A-0020" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Colares (Operação Prato) — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Prato", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nqLnEVcZ8vE", "ts": "0:07:44", "speaker": "Aldo Rebelo", "speaker_slug": "aldo-rebelo", "quote": "do the same if I am elected president of Brazil. So, I'm very excited to be here. Thank you for having me. It's an honor. >> Thank you so much, Jesse. And welcome. Welcome to Brazil. I know it's your first time here in my country. So, welcome." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "nqLnEVcZ8vE", "ts": "0:01:40", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "loss, and puncture wounds. a multi-month event affecting 200 [music] people. So serious that the Air Force ran a real investigation on it called Operation incursions of 1986, an unforgettable night for the Brazilian And then there's Virginia, Brazil's very own modernday Roswell." } ] }, { "slug": "kingman-arizona", "name": "Kingman, Arizona", "aka": [ "Kingman crash" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval" ], "lat": 35.19, "lon": -114.05, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Kingman area only; the story places the site vaguely in the surrounding desert.", "country": "United States", "region": "Mohave County, Arizona", "status": "unverified", "summary": "Desert near Kingman where, according to a story told by researcher William Steinman and repeated by Greg Bishop, a craft came down in May 1953 and a witness saw a four-foot body; Bishop links the witness record to Wright Field engineer Eric Henry Wang. No document or named first-hand witness exists.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Bishop recounts Steinman's story that a witness saw a four-foot body at Kingman and appears in records beside Eric Henry Wang, head of special studies at Wright Field.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "greg-bishop", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "WBTqsbwJyqU", "ts": "0:07:26", "speaker": "Greg Bishop", "speaker_slug": "greg-bishop", "quote": "He sees a body like a you know 4 foot body morted or whatever in Kingman and he Steinman looks him up sees his name in the record next to a guy named Eric Henry Wang. Eric Henry Wang uh was head of special studies at uh you know right airfield." } ] } ], "first_year": 1953, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "greg-bishop" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Kingman, Arizona — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingman_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "WBTqsbwJyqU", "ts": "0:07:26", "speaker": "Greg Bishop", "speaker_slug": "greg-bishop", "quote": "He sees a body like a you know 4 foot body morted or whatever in Kingman and he Steinman looks him up sees his name in the record next to a guy named Eric Henry Wang. Eric Henry Wang uh was head of special studies at uh you know right airfield." } ] }, { "slug": "cape-canaveral", "name": "Cape Canaveral / Patrick AFB", "aka": [ "Patrick Air Force Base", "45th Space Wing" ], "kind": "storage", "kinds": [ "storage", "base" ], "lat": 28.4889, "lon": -80.5778, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Public gazetteer: Cape Canaveral Space Force Station; Patrick AFB lies 25 km south.", "country": "United States", "region": "Brevard County, Florida", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Florida launch complex. Greg Rogers, who says he was chief of aerospace medicine for the 45th Space Wing in 1992, describes being shown a seamless, egg-like saucer about 20 feet across inside a hangar there. The base is documented; the hangar account is his testimony alone.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Rogers says he was shown a saucer about 20 feet across, egg-like with no rivets or seams, and that it later rotated to show US markings.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "greg-rogers", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "0:00:02", "speaker": "Greg Rogers", "speaker_slug": "greg-rogers", "quote": "there's a saucer 20 ft across was sort of like a modified egg. There were no rivets, uh, no seams, but then later on it rotated. It was clear as day." } ] }, { "text": "Rogers says that in 1992 he was chief of aerospace medicine and that the 45th Space Wing owned everything at the Cape and Patrick.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "greg-rogers", "side": "military", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "0:18:21", "speaker": "Greg Rogers", "speaker_slug": "greg-rogers", "quote": "I was the chief of aerospace medicine. So, um, >> what does that mean? >> Okay. Um, the 45th Space Wing owned everything at the Cape" } ] } ], "first_year": 1992, "last_year": 2025, "crafts": [ "egg-shaped", "flying-saucer-disc" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "greg-rogers" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Cape Canaveral / Patrick AFB — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Canaveral_Space_Force_Station", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "0:00:02", "speaker": "Greg Rogers", "speaker_slug": "greg-rogers", "quote": "there's a saucer 20 ft across was sort of like a modified egg. There were no rivets, uh, no seams, but then later on it rotated. It was clear as day." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "TNtlzEnl8rA", "ts": "0:18:21", "speaker": "Greg Rogers", "speaker_slug": "greg-rogers", "quote": "I was the chief of aerospace medicine. So, um, >> what does that mean? >> Okay. Um, the 45th Space Wing owned everything at the Cape" } ] }, { "slug": "magenta-lombardy", "name": "Magenta, Lombardy (1933)", "aka": [ "Magenta crash", "1933 Italy" ], "kind": "retrieval", "kinds": [ "retrieval" ], "lat": 45.465, "lon": 8.883, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Town of Magenta from public gazetteer; the alleged site is unspecified.", "country": "Italy", "region": "Lombardy", "status": "contested", "summary": "A town west of Milan where, according to documents promoted by Italian researchers and cited by Grusch, a disc came down in June 1933 and was studied under Mussolini's regime. Michels narrates the story, including Malmgren's recollection that Richard Bissell mentioned 1933. No archive has authenticated the documents.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels narrates that a disc-like object 10–12 m across came down near Magenta in June 1933, the first recovery in Europe, a claim also made by Grusch.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "09KP8XVf5nY", "ts": "1:35:49", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "a disc-like object measuring roughly 10 to 12 m in diameter came down near Magenta in Lombardi, Italy in June of 1933 was the first recovery in Europe." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that the craft and possibly two bodies were taken to SIAI-Marchetti hangars and that a nine-step secrecy protocol was drawn up.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "09KP8XVf5nY", "ts": "1:36:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "the downcraft and possibly two recovered bodies were taken to the SIA Marchetti private aerospace hangers for intensive analysis. This secret research group reportedly drew up a nine-step protocol to manage the Magenta crash and any similar future incidents." } ] }, { "text": "Michels says Malmgren told him Richard Bissell had mentioned the 1933 Magenta case, and Malmgren confirms it.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "09KP8XVf5nY", "ts": "1:31:29", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Richard Bissell mentioned the 1933 magenta. Correct." } ] } ], "first_year": 1933, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc" ], "beings": [], "people": [ "david-grusch", "harald-malmgren" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "09KP8XVf5nY", "ts": "1:35:49", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "a disc-like object measuring roughly 10 to 12 m in diameter came down near Magenta in Lombardi, Italy in June of 1933 was the first recovery in Europe." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "09KP8XVf5nY", "ts": "1:36:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "the downcraft and possibly two recovered bodies were taken to the SIA Marchetti private aerospace hangers for intensive analysis. This secret research group reportedly drew up a nine-step protocol to manage the Magenta crash and any similar future incidents." } ] }, { "slug": "ariel-school-ruwa", "name": "Ariel School, Ruwa", "aka": [ "Ariel School incident" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": -17.889, "lon": 31.244, "precision": "approximate", "coord_source": "Ruwa town from public gazetteer; the school lies on its outskirts.", "country": "Zimbabwe", "region": "Mashonaland East", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "A primary school near Ruwa, Zimbabwe, where in September 1994 some sixty children described a silver craft and beings on the edge of the schoolyard. Michels notes the school lay near a uranium mining site and calls one child's later testimony among the most powerful he has heard.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels recounts that Ariel School pupils said a silver craft descended and landed near their school, and notes the school was near a uranium mining site.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2023, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "kRO5jOa06Qw", "ts": "0:31:00", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "elementary school kids at the Arial International School in Zimbabwe said that they saw a silver craft descend from the sky and land on a field near their school. Well, guess where the aerial school was? And, you know, an ariel school that was near a uranium mining site." } ] } ], "first_year": 1994, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [ "flying-saucer-disc" ], "beings": [ "grey" ], "people": [ "john-mack" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [ "1994-ariel-school" ], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Ariel School, Ruwa — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_School_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "kRO5jOa06Qw", "ts": "0:31:00", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "elementary school kids at the Arial International School in Zimbabwe said that they saw a silver craft descend from the sky and land on a field near their school. Well, guess where the aerial school was? And, you know, an ariel school that was near a uranium mining site." } ] }, { "slug": "aguadilla-puerto-rico", "name": "Aguadilla, Puerto Rico", "aka": [ "Aguadilla 2013" ], "kind": "encounter", "kinds": [ "encounter" ], "lat": 18.4949, "lon": -67.1294, "precision": "exact", "coord_source": "Rafael Hernández Airport, Aguadilla, from public gazetteer.", "country": "United States (Puerto Rico)", "region": "Aguadilla", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The north-west coast of Puerto Rico where a Customs and Border Protection aircraft filmed an object over Rafael Hernández Airport in April 2013. A guest on the show describes the footage frame by frame and calls the coast an area with many sightings. Location documented; the object unexplained.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "The speaker places the 2013 footage on the coast of Puerto Rico over the Aguadilla airport, an area he says has many sightings.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "2:52:45", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "2013 on the coast of Puerto Rico where there are a lot of sightings. This is this is over the airport uh at Daguidia, big tourist destination. There's a bunch of hotels up the beach" } ] } ], "first_year": 2013, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [ "aguadilla-2013" ], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Aguadilla, Puerto Rico — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aguadilla_UFO_incident", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1iaH1a3A4Lk", "ts": "2:52:45", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "2013 on the coast of Puerto Rico where there are a lot of sightings. This is this is over the airport uh at Daguidia, big tourist destination. There's a bunch of hotels up the beach" } ] }, { "slug": "mount-hayes-alaska", "name": "Mount Hayes, Alaska", "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "anomaly" ], "lat": 63.62, "lon": -146.72, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Summit from public gazetteer; the claimed installation has no located entrance.", "country": "United States", "region": "Alaska Range", "status": "unverified", "summary": "A 4,216 m peak in the eastern Alaska Range. Lyn Buchanan says Army remote viewers, starting with Pat Price and Joe McMoneagle, described an underground base inside it with humans and non-humans working side by side, later found automated; Michels narrates Price's coordinates. No physical evidence exists.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Buchanan names Mount Hayes, Alaska as one of the four major alien bases on Earth found by remote viewing.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:00:35", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "The four major alien bases on the Earth. One in Mount Hayes, Alaska." } ] }, { "text": "Buchanan says Price and McMoneagle found aliens and humans working side by side at Mount Hayes, and that when he viewed it the equipment was automated and the site nearly empty.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:45:53", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "aliens and and humans working side by side as sort of an intelligence gathering And uh years later when I got there, um I did Mount Hayes and found out that the equipment was now automated and still running. But there is no need for personnel there, so it was basically kind of empty of people." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that Pat Price described a massive underground base inside Mount Hayes with consoles and military-looking personnel.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:28:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "massive underground [music] base inside Mount Hayes, Alaska. It had advanced technology, consoles, personnel that looked like military." } ] } ], "first_year": 1973, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "hal-puthoff", "joe-mcmoneagle", "lyn-buchanan" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Mount Hayes, Alaska — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hayes", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:00:35", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "The four major alien bases on the Earth. One in Mount Hayes, Alaska." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:45:53", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "aliens and and humans working side by side as sort of an intelligence gathering And uh years later when I got there, um I did Mount Hayes and found out that the equipment was now automated and still running. But there is no need for personnel there, so it was basically kind of empty of people." } ] }, { "slug": "mount-ziel-australia", "name": "Mount Zeil, Northern Territory", "aka": [ "Mount Ziel", "Mount Zeal" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "anomaly" ], "lat": -23.4, "lon": 132.38, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Summit from Australian gazetteer; the claimed base is unlocated.", "country": "Australia", "region": "West MacDonnell Ranges", "status": "unverified", "summary": "The highest peak in the Northern Territory, west of Alice Springs. Lyn Buchanan names it among four remote-viewed bases and says it is the one where craft fly in and out; Michels lists it among the three further bases Pat Price named. No physical evidence exists.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Buchanan says Mount Zeil in northern Australia is where the craft fly in and out.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:46:55", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "where they fly in and out is in um Mount uh Zeal in northern um Australia." } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that Price named Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inyangani in Zimbabwe and Mount Ziel in Australia as further bases.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:28:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "He named three more bases, Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inyangani in Zimbabwe, Mount Ziel in Australia." } ] } ], "first_year": 1973, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "joe-mcmoneagle", "lyn-buchanan" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Mount Zeil, Northern Territory — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Zeil", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:46:55", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "where they fly in and out is in um Mount uh Zeal in northern um Australia." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:28:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "He named three more bases, Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inyangani in Zimbabwe, Mount Ziel in Australia." } ] }, { "slug": "mount-inyangani-zimbabwe", "name": "Mount Nyangani, Zimbabwe", "aka": [ "Mount Inyangani" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "anomaly" ], "lat": -18.3, "lon": 32.84, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Summit from public gazetteer; the claimed base is unlocated.", "country": "Zimbabwe", "region": "Manicaland", "status": "unverified", "summary": "Zimbabwe's highest mountain, in the Eastern Highlands. Both Lyn Buchanan and Michels' account of Pat Price name it among four remote-viewed underground bases. The mountain is documented and has its own local disappearance folklore; the base claim has no physical evidence.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Buchanan names Mount Inyangani among the four major bases found by remote viewing.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:00:35", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "Mount Inyangani is another alien base. Have you ever seen" } ] }, { "text": "Michels narrates that Price named Mount Inyangani in Zimbabwe among three further bases.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:28:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "He named three more bases, Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inyangani in Zimbabwe, Mount Ziel in Australia." } ] } ], "first_year": 1973, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "lyn-buchanan" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Mount Nyangani, Zimbabwe — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Nyangani", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "0:00:35", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "Mount Inyangani is another alien base. Have you ever seen" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:28:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "He named three more bases, Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inyangani in Zimbabwe, Mount Ziel in Australia." } ] }, { "slug": "mount-perdido-spain", "name": "Monte Perdido, Spain", "aka": [ "Mount Perdido" ], "kind": "base", "kinds": [ "base", "anomaly" ], "lat": 42.675, "lon": 0.033, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Summit from public gazetteer; the claimed base is unlocated.", "country": "Spain", "region": "Aragon, Pyrenees", "status": "unverified", "summary": "A 3,355 m peak in the Pyrenees. Michels narrates that Pat Price named it among four remote-viewed bases and that Joe McMoneagle, viewing it blind, saw it being built by humans with helicopters and cargo crates rather than by non-human intelligence. No physical evidence exists.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Michels narrates that when McMoneagle remote-viewed Mount Perdido he saw it built by humans — helicopters, cargo crates, personnel moving materials into the mountain.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:29:25", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "when he remote viewed Mount Perdido in Spain, he saw how it was built, not by non-human intelligence, but by us, helicopters, cargo crates, human personnel moving materials into the mountain." } ] } ], "first_year": 1973, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "joe-mcmoneagle", "lyn-buchanan" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Monte Perdido, Spain — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Perdido", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "OOr98r51Sj0", "ts": "1:29:25", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "when he remote viewed Mount Perdido in Spain, he saw how it was built, not by non-human intelligence, but by us, helicopters, cargo crates, human personnel moving materials into the mountain." } ] }, { "slug": "antarctica", "name": "Antarctica", "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "lat": -80.0, "lon": 0.0, "precision": "region", "coord_source": "Continental pin only; claims name no coordinates.", "country": "Antarctica", "region": "Antarctic continent", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The continent recurs in the interviews through Operation Highjump lore, claims of structures under the ice, and Michels' narration of Admiral Byrd and Forrestal. Speakers in the ancient-history episodes make the specific statements. The continent is documented; every claimed structure is unsupported.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "The Antarctic ice-core climate archive is continuous for hundreds of thousands of years (EPICA Dome C reaches ~800,000 years), which rules out a recently ice-free Antarctic continent in the window the Atlantis-in-Antarctica reading requires.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "matt-ford", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "A_LsUSxTm7A", "ts": "0:29:40", "speaker": "Matt", "speaker_slug": "matt-ford", "quote": "the Antarctic Ice cores which by the way you can go back to 450,000 years to on those ice cors which is insane to see that that's the oldest ice cap on Earth Bar None and that's why I don't believe the civilizations were into Antarctica because of we we have ice cords showing" } ] }, { "text": "Antarctic mountains look like pyramids because the ice cap preserves them from wind and rain erosion - the A_LsUSxTm7A guest's mundane explanation of the 'Antarctic pyramid' class of observations.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "matt-ford", "side": "journalist", "year": 2024, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "A_LsUSxTm7A", "ts": "0:30:13", "speaker": "Matt", "speaker_slug": "matt-ford", "quote": "mountains look like pyramids there is because there's been almost there's been little to no erosion by wind or rain or anything they're almost like these giant mountains made out of certain stones that have been almost stuck in in an ice cap and haven't been able to weather now" } ] }, { "text": "Rudolf Hess was one of the main figures Germany sent to Antarctica - Jason Jorjani's claim.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ABw7EsWh2Us", "ts": "1:48:04", "speaker": "Jason Reza Jorjani", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "quote": "one of the main guys they send to Antarctica is Rudolph Hess. >> Oh, Rudolph Hess. Yeah. And this Rudolph Hess who they send to Antarctica" } ] }, { "text": "Atlantis was located in Antarctica when the continent sat at a temperate latitude before a crustal displacement moved it south (Jorjani's Hapgood reading).", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ABw7EsWh2Us", "ts": "1:44:58", "speaker": "Jason Reza Jorjani", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "quote": "at that time Antarctica was where Argentina would be >> So Atlantis would have had the climate of contemporary Argentina >> and I believe in the Pirase map which" } ] }, { "text": "Antarctica has been a no-fly zone since 1957, and skiers exploring it have had black helicopters descend on them and been told they are in an area affecting US national security.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ABw7EsWh2Us", "ts": "1:56:31", "speaker": "Jason Reza Jorjani", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "quote": "Antarctica is a a no-fly zone as of 1957 the international geohysical year. There have been skiers who have uh, you know, were putitively exploring Antarctica for sport who have had black helicopters descend on them and they were told that they are um in an area that affects the" } ] }, { "text": "A Navy SEAL source told Linda Moulton Howe he was tasked with a mission in Antarctica that found a black pyramid embedded in ice.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ABw7EsWh2Us", "ts": "1:50:39", "speaker": "Jason Reza Jorjani", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "quote": "there's a very interesting story that was told to Linda Molton How by an Navy Seal >> who claimed to have uh been tasked with a mission in Antarctica and he said that" } ] }, { "text": "Admiral Byrd talked about a pyramid in Antarctica, and a friend of Jorjani's saw and photographed a black pyramid there that was later deleted from Google Maps.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "ABw7EsWh2Us", "ts": "1:58:33", "speaker": "Jason Reza Jorjani", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "quote": "Richard Bird, Admiral Richard Bird talked about uh pyramid and the pyramid you can spot like I have a friend who went down there and I think he was making a documentary or something and he saw this sort of black pyramid. >> There's a picture of it. I've seen a picture of it." } ] }, { "text": "An Antarctic contractor mechanic noticed large amounts of energy being transferred to parts of his facility where it 'wasn't supposed to be going' while de-energizing cables.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "eric-hecker", "side": "contractor", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "51N8OxqZIWY", "ts": "1:35:32", "speaker": "Eric Hecker", "speaker_slug": "eric-hecker", "quote": "he had noticed that like energy was being um uh transferred from one area to another area where it wasn't supposed to be going like a huge amount of energy was being sent off to these places when he was, you know, trying to uh deenergize the the cables and things like that." } ] } ], "first_year": 1946, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-ANCIENT-0010", "N-ANCIENT-0027", "N-ANCIENT-0210" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Antarctica — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Highjump", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "A_LsUSxTm7A", "ts": "0:29:40", "speaker": "Matt", "speaker_slug": "matt-ford", "quote": "the Antarctic Ice cores which by the way you can go back to 450,000 years to on those ice cors which is insane to see that that's the oldest ice cap on Earth Bar None and that's why I don't believe the civilizations were into Antarctica because of we we have ice cords showing" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "A_LsUSxTm7A", "ts": "0:30:13", "speaker": "Matt", "speaker_slug": "matt-ford", "quote": "mountains look like pyramids there is because there's been almost there's been little to no erosion by wind or rain or anything they're almost like these giant mountains made out of certain stones that have been almost stuck in in an ice cap and haven't been able to weather now" } ] }, { "slug": "the-moon", "name": "The Moon", "aka": [ "Compton–Belkovich", "Aristarchus crater" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "precision": "unplaced", "coord_source": "Not an Earth location; not pinned.", "region": "Lunar surface", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "Guests discuss claimed lunar structures and anomalies at sites such as Compton–Belkovich and Aristarchus, and Apollo-era remarks by astronauts. The Moon is not pinned on the Earth map; the claimed structures have no accepted scientific support.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Apollo seismic experiments (intentional booster impacts plus emplaced seismometers) produced long reverberation trains on the Moon - 'rang like a bell' - explained by the Moon's dry, fractured, scattering regolith rather than by hollowness.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JGE1NIGhBzw", "ts": "0:04:39", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "when the lunar lander hit it both in Apollo 12 and and in Apollo 13 you had ringing and when meteoroids strike it, same thing. While those those Apollo imp place seismometers were on the moon. Yes." } ] }, { "text": "The 1994 Clementine mission was a joint DoD-NASA lunar orbiter that returned the first evidence of water ice at the lunar poles.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uVVqFg2v7ro", "ts": "0:11:31", "speaker": "Max Derakhshani", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "quote": "it did apparently discover um water ice at the poles of the moon as like a first discovery. But um that was at least publicly the only stated objective of the mission is just to do scientific analysis and maybe to test out certain new sensors in space." } ] }, { "text": "Apollo 11 landed humans on the Moon; the physical return (samples, retroreflectors still ranged by lasers, independent tracking) and the later photographic record (LRO images of the sites) establish it.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uVVqFg2v7ro", "ts": "1:58:35", "speaker": "Max Derakhshani", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "quote": "I think we definitely went to the moon um at least as early as Apollo 11. I think that many of the" } ] }, { "text": "The Sun is about 400 times larger than the Moon and about 400 times farther away, producing near-perfect total eclipses - one of Jesse's 'weird coincidences' about the Moon.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "randall-carlson", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JGE1NIGhBzw", "ts": "0:32:44", "speaker": "Randall Carlson", "speaker_slug": "randall-carlson", "quote": "the distance between you have a proportional relationship between diameters and distance. The sun is 400 times larger than the moon and 400 times farther away. Okay. So, what's up with that? There we go. I mean, what is up with I don't know." } ] }, { "text": "Aristarchus crater accounts for a disproportionate share of catalogued transient lunar phenomena, and Apollo 11's crew was asked to observe it from orbit after Earth-based astronomers reported unusual brightness - they confirmed it looked unusually bright, almost fluorescent.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uVVqFg2v7ro", "ts": "1:40:50", "speaker": "Max Derakhshani", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "quote": "some astronomers in Germany saw this crater as unusually bright. Mhm. >> Um, and mission control told Apollo 11 about this while they were in orbit before they landed. And they were asked" } ] }, { "text": "Bart Sibrel presented a clip from a Moscow AI conference in which a vision model judged Apollo photographs to be synthetic - footage shown to Putin, who found it unsurprising.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "joe-rogan", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "C_Na1tI5qpw", "ts": "1:45:22", "speaker": "Joe Rogan", "speaker_slug": "joe-rogan", "quote": "at the video and he's like not surprised that that checks out is fake. >> My friend who was from Russia said that in high school they were teaching that the moon landing was a hoax. >> No way. >> Yes. Now, I don't know if that was just one cool teacher that was like, \"Bro, I" } ] }, { "text": "The Apollo presentation was manicured and some released imagery was managed or recreated - while the missions themselves were real (the Metzger/Fox/guest middle position).", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "kurt-metzger", "side": "civilian", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "51N8OxqZIWY", "ts": "1:38:40", "speaker": "Kurt Metzger", "speaker_slug": "kurt-metzger", "quote": "Do you think Do you think the footage that we saw might have been faked, but not the actual mission itself? >> That's my belief. >> That's kind of where I am. I wonder because some people say like, you know," } ] }, { "text": "GRAIL found massive caves and caverns extending potentially kilometres below the lunar surface, including a lava tube ~9 km tall that could fit Manhattan and the boroughs inside.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uVVqFg2v7ro", "ts": "1:49:40", "speaker": "Max Derakhshani", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "quote": "there are clearly major gaps um and cave like structures below the lunar surface. So that probably that has to also uh contribute to the explanation. Now, beyond that, I is it hollow if you" } ] } ], "first_year": 1969, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "frank-borman" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-ANCIENT-0011", "N-ANCIENT-0012", "N-ANCIENT-0013" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "The Moon — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JGE1NIGhBzw", "ts": "0:04:39", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "when the lunar lander hit it both in Apollo 12 and and in Apollo 13 you had ringing and when meteoroids strike it, same thing. While those those Apollo imp place seismometers were on the moon. Yes." }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uVVqFg2v7ro", "ts": "0:11:31", "speaker": "Max Derakhshani", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "quote": "it did apparently discover um water ice at the poles of the moon as like a first discovery. But um that was at least publicly the only stated objective of the mission is just to do scientific analysis and maybe to test out certain new sensors in space." } ] }, { "slug": "mars-cydonia", "name": "Mars / Cydonia", "aka": [ "Cydonia", "Face on Mars" ], "kind": "anomaly", "kinds": [ "anomaly" ], "precision": "unplaced", "coord_source": "Not an Earth location; not pinned.", "region": "Cydonia Mensae, Mars", "status": "verified_entity", "summary": "The Cydonia region of Mars, with the \"Face\" imaged by Viking in 1976, and John Brandenburg's hypothesis of an ancient nuclear event inferred from xenon-129 and argon-40 levels. Brandenburg and others make the statements on the show. Not pinned on the Earth map; the hypotheses are outside the scientific mainstream.", "what_is_claimed": [ { "text": "Higher-resolution imaging of the Cydonia mesa after 1998 is generally held to have settled the Face question in favour of a natural landform.", "class": "FACT", "band": "documented", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JpLThEF2dTM", "ts": "1:58:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "this structure provoked a lot of speculation for more than 20 years but eventually higher resolution images seemingly put that question to bed at least for most the established narrative was that this was all just a case of parolia the same psychological effect that makes us see" } ] }, { "text": "Mariner 9 photographed features near the Martian south pole that the imaging team informally dubbed the Inca City.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JpLThEF2dTM", "ts": "1:59:55", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "near Mars's South Pole Mariner 9 took pictures of what looked like ancient ruins these ancient ruins were even in formally dubbed by their team as the Incan City elsewhere vast areas of Monolithic structures tunnels even other faces seem to defy explanations that" } ] }, { "text": "Donald Trump raised the possibility of life on Mars unprompted during a Joe Rogan interview.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "p0S0BfoZy0w", "ts": "0:54:36", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Another interesting data point is um Donald Trump on Joe Rogan Experience. Uh he immediately pointed to Mars. He goes He goes he goes" } ] }, { "text": "Max Derakhshani says Mars had an Earth-like atmosphere for over a billion years, about three billion years ago, citing NASA's own studies.", "class": "FACT", "band": "well-supported", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "side": "scientist", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "uVVqFg2v7ro", "ts": "1:57:01", "speaker": "Max", "speaker_slug": "max-derakhshani", "quote": "Mars seems to have had a earthlike atm atmosphere for like over a billion years according to even known NASA's own studies. Um when and this was like three billion years ago." } ] }, { "text": "Lyn Buchanan testified that he bilocated into a sand-filled hallway inside a Cydonia structure, having been given only coordinates, and later matched his drawing to a sharp photograph of the region on Hal Puthoff's wall.", "class": "FACT", "band": "contested", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "1:11:26", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "first time that happened to me was with the Sedona region at Mars. And um I was working along. I'd gotten some coordinates, just some numbers." } ] }, { "text": "Buchanan places the Cydonia structures and their occupants in the present day, not a million years ago, and describes beings with atrophied limbs inside a pyramid.", "class": "FACT", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "side": "military", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "1sxmSMzqnmA", "ts": "1:15:39", "speaker": "Lyn Buchanan", "speaker_slug": "lyn-buchanan", "quote": "down into the pyramid and it was um it was beings that are much larger than humans, with atrophied limbs, probably incapable of ever coming out, you know. >> What did they look like? Did they look" } ] }, { "text": "Jorjani says Brandenburg found the xenon-129 deviation specifically at Cydonia and that its signature is matched only by terrestrial thermonuclear test sites.", "class": "INFERENCE", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "side": "researcher", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "EzPmG_7WhXc", "ts": "1:08:08", "speaker": "Jason Reza Jorjani", "speaker_slug": "jason-reza-jorjani", "quote": "The xenon 129 isotopic signature at Sidonia he has discovered um is only matched by thermonuclear test sites on the earth. It's the only other place in the solar system where we see that kind of signature." } ] }, { "text": "Alberino asserts there are ruins of an ancient civilisation on Mars in the region of Cydonia.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "thin", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "CiQTBOQ1dTg", "ts": "0:00:36", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "There are ruins of an ancient civilization on the planet Mars, specifically in the region of Sidonia. And this what's so fascinating about this is that the ancients believed that the gods descended from Mars. We can understand the modern phenomenon in light of the book of Enoch." } ] }, { "text": "Alberino says NASA released the higher-resolution Cydonia images in order to quell the public reaction, and states plainly that he has no proof of this.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "side": "researcher", "year": 2026, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "CiQTBOQ1dTg", "ts": "0:58:30", "speaker": "Tim Alberino", "speaker_slug": "tim-alberino", "quote": "personally I have no proof of this. Okay, I'm just spitballing. But I personally think that that the images from the first mission of the surface of Mars were correct, were accurate, and that NASA um released those second higher resolution images to sort of quell the the" } ] }, { "text": "Jesse states on air that the square structure on Mars has been verified at the highest levels.", "class": "SPECULATION", "band": "unsupported", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "side": "journalist", "year": 2025, "sources": [ { "kind": "corpus", "video": "p0S0BfoZy0w", "ts": "0:01:36", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "Joe Rogan recently retweeted my buddy Chris Ramsey who posted this photo that's now been verified at the highest levels of this sort of square structure on Mars that looks artificial, but that's of a a long lineage, as you know, Yes." } ] } ], "first_year": 1976, "last_year": 2026, "crafts": [], "beings": [], "people": [ "joe-mcmoneagle", "john-brandenburg" ], "documents": [], "footage": [], "events": [], "graph_ids": [ "N-MARS-0001", "N-MARS-0002", "N-MARS-0018", "N-MARS-0019", "N-MARS-0021" ], "sources": [ { "kind": "external", "title": "Mars / Cydonia — Wikipedia", "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(Mars)", "publisher": "Wikipedia" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JpLThEF2dTM", "ts": "1:58:52", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "this structure provoked a lot of speculation for more than 20 years but eventually higher resolution images seemingly put that question to bed at least for most the established narrative was that this was all just a case of parolia the same psychological effect that makes us see" }, { "kind": "corpus", "video": "JpLThEF2dTM", "ts": "1:59:55", "speaker": "Jesse Michels", "speaker_slug": "jesse-michels", "quote": "near Mars's South Pole Mariner 9 took pictures of what looked like ancient ruins these ancient ruins were even in formally dubbed by their team as the Incan City elsewhere vast areas of Monolithic structures tunnels even other faces seem to defy explanations that" } ] } ] }