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UFOs Are Monitoring Nuclear Bases Globally (Ft. Robert Hastings)

24 December 2024 · 2 h 8 min · 19,873 words · 243 blocks · YouTube transcript · ▶ Watch on YouTube

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Nationwide sightings of mysterious drones weeks of mysterious drone sightings you're telling me we don't know what what the hell these drones are in New Jersey are that's right they're saying no threat but how the hell do they know they don't know anything they don't know what it is they don't know where it come from tip of the iceberg would be a gross understatement for that headline more like tip of a sunken continent no that ain't no playing yo what the [ __ ] is that bro people in New York and New Jersey see drones the size of an SUV over there house every night and think that that doesn't make any sense sure they understand why people

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would be looking at this and being concerned about it we're concerned about too the US Air Force say there are drones don't you [ __ ] believe it the US Air Force lies there was a drone just hanging out I put my drone up in the air and went towards it not 3 minutes into the flight drone started going down dead these are fully charged batteries what's going on here isn't new and these aren't all drones you see it you see how it goes and they're not just over New Jersey they're all over the world there were several mystery drone flights over

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our nuclear testing range just take a look at all of the military sites all over the world that these drones have visited this is the continuation of a story that's been unraveling since the dawn of the atomic age based off of the information that you've been preview to is there any indication that these uaps are interested in our nuclear technology and capabilities yes by internal observation sure that could be a fair assessment yes after the detonation of the atomic

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bombs in Japan that's when the UFO sightings ramped up when Oppenheimer detonated the world's first atom bomb at Trinity test site in 1945 and later as Edward teller's hydrogen bomb shook the South Pacific in 1952 since then UFOs have been systematically surveying and even tampering with our nuclear weapons stockpiles and power plants all 10 missiles were off alert all 10 whole flight was off alert all

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red and I said it looks like we got a UFO UFOs consistently appear at nuclear weapons facilities and energy grids around the world from Los Alamos to Hanford to Oakridge to melstrom to Minot to Fe Warren to Savannah riversite to Royal Air Force bases in the UK and nuclear sites in the former Soviet Union UFOs are seen hovering over silos tampering

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with comms links and even disabling nuclear missiles themselves they were not launchable they they were in a no-go condition and if you want to learn all about it you're in luck because today's amazing American Alchemist is Robert Hastings the man who has dedicated his life to documenting this unquestionable connection Jesse Michaels and his crew are here today and they're doing uh an interview with me so we're in the middle of that so let me call you later today and we'll discuss this further his nearly 600 page book UFOs in nukes is

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literally the world's best database on this phenomena I view your book UFOs in nukes as sort of a the best possible database when it comes to Credible Witnesses viewing UFOs Hastings has personally interviewed 167 employees of nuclear bases across the United States many of whom are clear to the most sensitive American National Security Secrets holy mackerel there's this white pulsating object that can't be one of

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ours these are missile technicians ICBM security Personnel missileers radar operators and more who have all seen orbs saucers discs and Tic Tacs in and around the most sensitive nuclear airspace by nature of who they are these Witnesses are inherently some of the most reliable in the world some literally have their finger on the nuclear button you know they're on what they call PRP they have to like report if they're like you know taking IB proof for God's sakes and these Witnesses couldn't care

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less about fame or attention in fact most of them want to avoid these things at all costs in fact many of them have suffered intensely in their careers for speaking out about their experiences a flag was being put in their folders citing them as a security risk so that if they sought employment with like an aerospace company or something the Air Force would have designated them to be security risks we will interview two of these Witnesses with mind-blowing stories directly in this episode and you can be the judge one was threatened

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repeatedly and his records were deleted from vandenbberg Air Force Base they threatened my life you're going down [ __ ] means to me we're going to kill you they denied there was ever a Robert Jacobs in the Air Force he gets a phone call one night he and his wife come home from a movie the phone rings the voice says your mailbox Al light what a beautiful sight you're going down craft at Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota they were just multi levels

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with with all these small Grays everywhere Hastings has risked his life in telling stories like these do you feel like your Communications are being tracked or no question after each one of those calls I would talk to them hang up the phone within a minute or five or 10 the phone would ring I would pick it up and there would be nothing but heavy breathing in the phone I originally met Robert because I

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had been going around making constant public references to his great book UFOs and nukes Robert Hastings Robert Hastings Robert Hastings who wrote UFOs and nukes so Robert emailed me because he wanted to let me know that while he had documented 100 plus UFO Witnesses at nuclear sites across the US I was personally overstating the amount of radar operators who he had spoken to if that doesn't say something about Robert's character and attention to detail I don't know what does he comes from a bygone era of meticulousness and

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passion that journalists used to display and one that's easily palpable in this interview Robert Hastings was 100% spot-on before anybody else um and this is the man who deserves the recognition he is the giant that a lot of us has stand stood on his shoulders it does not contain any pattern of purpose or of consistency this documentary will answer the two biggest critiques thrown at UFOs

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by Skeptics number one UFOs are ephemeral they show up randomly and sporadically there's nothing repeatable or predictable about them the nuclear thing is a repeatable pattern legacy US uo programs have used nuclear material or sometimes even phony nuclear material to bait UFOs to show deep State scop why do they only seem to show up at American military bases a huge disc-shaped object was seen

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hovering over this missile base in Soviet Ukraine the bentwaters case in 1980 in England that was the largest group of tactical nuclear weapons being stored in Western Europe and it went back out into the field and then it exploded silently into objects white objects and disappeared UFOs are repeatedly and scientifically attracted to nuclear sites you can kind of guess if if there is a UFO sighting there might be nuclear connection there take the most famous archetypal sighting in American history

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the crashed flying disc at Roswell New Mexico in 1947 well Roswell was actually the site of the first atomic bomber Squadron in America the Squadron responsible for dropping bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1994 62 elementary school kids at the aerial School in Zimbabwe said that they saw a silver craft descend from the sky and land on a field near the school well guess where the aerial school was and you know an aerial school that was near a uranium uh mining

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site that is right that's far as I understand and what about that story that Vice ran in 2022 about a little town in Japan that's obsessed with UFOs it's a place called Eno and it's actually right next to fukushima's nuclear grid and after an earthquake famously triggered a nuclear power meltdown there in 2011 the chief monk of a local temple said the UFOs came after the explosion there were so many of them I was shocked similarly Harvard PhD Jensen andreon writes about UFO activity

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at the height of the Chernobyl disaster when many people in in the area observed a UFO come stay for 3 minutes shine a light at the reactor and depart I could go on all day by the end of this documentary the only question you'll be left with is why why are UFOs so interested in our nuclear technology it's no different than we go to the sereniti and we watch the Cheetahs praying upon the analou you know it's it's interesting to watch what are their hunting techniques what are their capabilities it might be as simple as

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like it's an attractant like a fly or bosquito to a blue light right it's kind of like taking matches out of the hands of a baby whoa yeah whoo right so without further Ado meet the man who has risked his life documenting this unquestionable but infinitely bizarre connection a mysterious link that lies at the heart of the modern UFO question this week's American Alchemist the legendary Robert Hastings did you know your personal

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20 and using the code jesse2 at checkout protect your personal information and take back your privacy documents and witness testimony from former or retired US military personnel confirmed Beyond any doubt the reality of ongoing UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites how does anybody get into the topic of

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UFOs showing up around nuclear sites my father was career Air Force and in 1967 he was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force the time he got me a job at the air traffic control tower on the base as a janitor at one point I made the acquaintance of an FAA supervisor named grasser one night and as best as I can

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tell it was the second half of March of' 67 was emptying trash cans and pushing a broom and he motioned me over to his tracking and he probably said unknowns that's the formal term for unidentified objects I saw five blips in the sort of Northeast quadrant of his radar scope

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got kind of excited by this and started peppering him with questions and his whole demeanor kind of went uhoh you know I've said too much nevertheless I went home and told my dad you know you're not going to believe what happened tonight at the tower he said uh the guys that I'm talking to down there think they're probably Soviet surveillance planes and even though I was 16 I went five surveillance planes you know and the controller told me they were basically stationary you know the the Soviets flying helicopters over

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Montana I don't think was over Robert went to college got married and began working as a photographer but that gnawing urge to understand what he had witnessed never left him in 1973 while brushing up on UFOs he stumbled upon an article that famed astronomer Jay Allen HCK had written in 1966 while running Project Blue Book the official government UFO investigations program out of the Air

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Force the article said that UFOs had float around nuclear missiles at Min not Air Force Base in North Dakota and I went holy crap you know that's had to be what was happening at malstrom so I was of and running at that point and slowly but surely during the early 70s onward I just began seeking out military veterans who might have information they could share when we got down there they told us that this bogey was out there right over the Hanford Ordinance Works and directed Lieutenant

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Commander Brown to take off and challenge him thanks to Roberts efforts we now know that UFO overflights of nuclear bases were happening as early as 1945 in the United States months before the Trinity test in New Mexico months before the atomic bombings in Japan Bud Clen was describing luminous balls of light hovering over the handford plutonium protection site being chased Away unsuccessfully by jet fighters on three

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occasions he said all I can see is a bright red reddish orange uh Fireball right up in front of Lou alzando in his new book has said was indeed a bonafide UFO crash in July 47 That Base was the only the only nuclear bomber base in the world at the

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rights at the University of New Mexico named Lincoln leaz began studying green Fireballs often in correlation with nuclear facilities and detonations flight patterns that they were artificially controlled and not just naturally occurring phenomena Dan Wilson spent I don't know how many hours tracking down Green Fireball sightings that were coinciding with radiation drifting across the

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American landscape dozens and dozens of instances where within hours of a certain test occurring and the subsequent radiation drift ing across this part of America or that part of America those Geographic locations had greenfall at Fireball sightings normal meteor there was no noise there was no debris found it didn't continue after 1948 so

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the question is still flyover in 195 52 in Washington ghostlike objects D across the radar screen at the CAA Traffic Control Center at National Airport for several hours traveling more than 100 mph this was a very famous incident where saucers were seen everywhere in and around Washington DC causing headlines like saucers on the White

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lawn and an emergency phone call between President Truman and Blue Book Chief investigator Edward J Rupel nuclear what happened in 1952 the DC UFO sightings in in July yeah I was going to say the oh what else the first hbomb the hbomb te teller

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1952 what if there was someone there to hear what we said in the Pacific we sent off a signal just way just the way when North Korea detonates a nuclear device it sends seismic waves through the Earth can't stop sending information outside of the to the cosmos which is that we're very very close to being in possession of root level knowledge to take a software

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metaphor if there was something or someone there to hear us they probably heard us as saying we're on the verge of being able to come visit terrifying but the DC flyover occurred in July of 1952 and the first hydrogen bombs were tested later that year in November so the timing is a bit off if Weinstein is attempting to draw an exact

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correlation but what's not as well known is that at the time a state-of-the-art plutonium and trium production facility was being built at Savannah riversite in Carolina in July of 1952 it had just become operational and it was the most secretive Atomic site in the United States in fact a young nuclear engineer stationed there named John Anderson was required to attend a group event with a hundred other Engineers on site to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the

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founding of DuPont company in 1802 kind of weird but hey I guess that's what you celebrate while working on a nuclear site Anderson and his colleagues were quickly overtaken by a green glowing object angular and size darting back and forth erratically at high speeds and altitudes with phenomenal maneuverability we now know that the date of this event was likely July 19th 1952 the peak day of sightings for the 1952 DC flyover were the UFOs perhaps

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trying to send a message to our federal American telescopes at the time well I've spoken to an amazing Swedish astronomer named beatric Vel about just that so we were comparing this images from the early 50s to images as it looks today and I was hoping to see this perfect sparkling star that you can find in multiple images that one day vanishes and uh I had this image where you could

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see multiple Stars appearing and managing which is completely crazy I got an idea of that one of the ways how one can also search for more such examples by looking for those that are lying along a line or in a narrow band and we had two such examples that were statistically significant one is uh five objects on a narrow band and it's from the 27th of July 1952 and then my colleague enri found these three uh Stars the triple transient this one is from the 19th of

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1952 that's absolutely amazing I mean cuz in UFO lore this Washington Invasion or DC flyover where there were saucers all over DC at the time and it was spefic was July of 1952 but it was specifically two weekends it was the 19th and 20th and it was the 26th and 27th so I find that absolutely remarkable But Eric Weinstein may have still been right in another sense there is actually a direct link between the hydrogen bomb blasts at the Marshall

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Islands and UFOs the famous tests codeen named Operation Ivy and operation called project Castle or operation Castle in uh the spring of 54 and I found Sailors who are aboard various vessels who were describing very brief but clearly sightings of dis shaped objects or spherical shaped objects hovering over their

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ships in fact the entry from the deck log of the USS Curtis the ship that detonated the hydrogen bomb at bikini at toll reads at 2305 an unidentified luminous object passed over ship from bow to stern yellowish orange in color traveling at a high rate of speed and a low altitude scripture of the Bhagavad Gita now I am

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become death the destroyer of nuclear was known since the beginning of American government Atomic programs we now know due to verified Declassified documents that on May 5th 1949 after multiple sightings at killing base at Camp Hood Texas which stored America's largest nuclear stockpile to date that an emergency meeting was held the meeting included

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the Air Force's office of special investigations the Office of Naval intelligence Army Counter Intelligence and the FBI they were called in to discuss the sudden ubiquitous appearance of UFOs across nuclear bases in the US also that year a now public FBI memo was sent to direct J N your Hoover reporting flying discs flying saucers and Balls of Fire quote unquote considered Top Secret by Intelligence

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Officers of both the Army and Air Force the memo goes on to discuss frequent sightings at Los salamas the headquarters of the Manhattan Project there are some people I'm uh colleagues with that like their grandparents were actually you know the UFO report people on the Manhattan Project and I remember being told that I'm like really holy crap that's crazy you know there's like a whole other side of the Manhattan nuclear was known since the beginning of American government Atomic programs and

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UFOs are classified with the same protocols governing American Atomic Secrets if something is not a nuke but it has radiological energy coming off it you know Alpha Beta Decay whatever same secrecy same secrecy the hunt for the Flying Saucer Chief UFO investigator for the Air Force Captain Edward J Rupel is quoted saying many of the sightings reported had originated at

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one Atomic weapons related site or another all around the country and Rupel is on record in the article saying that uh we are aware of 63 separate incidents of UFOs being cited at nuclear weapons facilities in fact the rumors of UFOs at Los Alamos and other nuclear sites were so widespread that Elanor Roosevelt wrote to Oppenheimer inquiring about them responding with a letter that's been fully verified and archived in the Library of Congress Oppenheimer wrote

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back reassuring the former first lady that these were just intelligence document written by the head of their nuclear division Harry Turner Oppenheimer was deeply involved in exotic anti-gravity would alimer have been told the Manhattan Project would have custody of it and then it would go into the atomic

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energy commission and then it would go into the depart energy which has its own line of clearances and that's why I can't find among the people I know who have clearances Above Top sacr they've never heard heard of this yeah they've never heard of this because you can be in the Pentagon with the top secret clearance that if you if you're not briefed on the atomic secrets you wouldn't get the clearances that you needed to do to open up that

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thing fast forward to 1964 we're on vandenbberg Air Force Base in California called Atlas testing dummy nuclear warheads being launched from intercontinental ballistic missiles a photo instrumentation specialist Lieutenant Bob Jacobs was tasked with capturing the launch of two missiles from 100 miles north of vandenbberg at Sur a giant 18 wheel truck came tracking

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up this forest service road and brought this enormous Kad optic telescope with a focal length of about 2,000 Ines the normal length on a 35 millimeter camera is 2 inches so you can imagine how big the image would be in a 2,000 in lens so I said wow this is neat and the the the guy who had who had built this thing was named Walt Manning Dr Walt Manning at Briget at Boston University anyway we got the telescope all set up we were ready to go and major management called

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and he said tomorrow morning at 0600 get ready because we're launching a an Atlas missile and we want you to photograph that with the big bu telescope I went okay so at 0600 we were up and ready to go and an Atlas missile popped up through the ground fog that was covering the whole Coastline all the way down there it was vanderberg where it was processed and a day later I got a call from major

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mansman who said come up to my office so I went to his office uh and he said there was a a movie screen set up and a 16 mm projector and there was Major mansman and as I recall two guys in Gray shot we could see clearly on film the nose cones separate then we saw the

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Warhead and suddenly into that frame an object flew in chasing the Warhead and so on at the same speed it's going between 6 and 8,000 miles an hour at that point and it fired a beam of light at the dummy Warhead the object flew up like this shot another beam of light at the dummy Warhead went around like this shot another beam of light at it went down like this shot a beam of light like this and then flew out the same way to come in at which time the dummy Warhead

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did this and fell out of the frame Florence mansman analyzed the film frame by frame with a magnifier what's called a loop magnifier and he's on record by the mid 80s he was writing to Jacobs in private letters saying what I saw with the magnifier was a disc-shaped object with a dome and before each of the four flashes of light were observed the whole disc pivoted Flash the light pivoted back and then pivoted again for for the next Flash

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said to me were you guys screwing around up there and I said no sir and he said what was that and I said it looks like we got a UFO and he said Lieutenant Jacobs you are never to speak of this again it happened the two guys in the gray suits stood behind him looking at me he said I make myself clear I said yes sir what else you going to say say to to the major in

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charge so who were these mysterious men in suits mansman said they were CIA and They confiscated the film not a hire air force office CIA confiscated the film didn't they delete your records from the government as well people denied that you worked at Vandenburg is that is that right they denied there was ever a Robert Jacobs in the Air Force and they in another inquiry they denied there was ever a Robert Jacobs at vanderberg Air Bas then they denied there was ever

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anybody named Robert Jacobs in charge of the 1369 photographic a 100 people so it's pretty easy for corroborate yeah I had 13 guys working for me and I had two two friends from college who are my commanding people and I also have something called dd14 I have I have records here show my officer efficiency reports are in there I can't get rid of stuff my

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wife keeps saying clear that [ __ ] out of your out of that F camer over there Bob I go no I might use it and sure enough it's turned out to be valuable oh yeah in defending myself against the infamy of the CIA but we didn't have a launch on that day there was no Atlas launch that day well Goddamn well there was because Robert found the found the files from vanderbur Miss SE that particular that particular launch in detail so they did not they also scrubbed the launch itself from the records correct never happened wow and never and your mailbox

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was blown up as well right my wife and I had been out to a movie we came back from the movie about 10:00 at night and there was a message on on my answering machine and it said um fireworks in your mailbox at night oh what a beautiful site you're going down [ __ ] and my mailbox blew up I live on a farm I had a rural mailbox and there was an explosion my mailbox blew up I took that quite seriously I bought

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an ammunition for my 1952 the cia's office of scientific intelligence took the real UFO investigations underground they did this while performing a psychological operation the American population in the form of Air Force's Project Blue Book which was explicitly meant to downplay and explain away UFOs project blook was the best they could do at the time

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because they felt they had a real project going on that was secret G is that true and the Air Force did oh I didn't know that so really it was the CIA and the atomic energy commission responsible for the real deeper research on UFOs the FBI and the Air Force project bluebo were kept in the dark this clip from the great James Fox movie out of the blue is perhaps telling Edgar Hoover wrote several letters stating that the investigation of unidentified flying objects is not and never has been

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within the jurisdiction of the FBI here's just another example of joint CIA atomic energy research going on around UFOs at the time at the end of the Cuban Missile Crisis on the 25th of October in 1962 a nuclear test called Blue Guild triple prime was executed it involved a sub Megaton X1 nuclear warhead launched minutes before midnight at Johnston atol in the South Pacific according to many on the ship witnessing the test a bright

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fiery object tumbled out from the plume of the blast there is apparently video evidence of this in fact an Australian intelligence officer who's dealt with sensitive nuclear assets named Jeff kushank says that this video was later sanitized and censored to cover up the UFO he says that a white triangle was later superimposed on the video where the object tumbles out of the plume only a few milliseconds after the detonation the fireball is approximately a kilm wide a bright fiery object tumbles out

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from within uh the nucular Fireball and it's plain as day you can slow it down and see this very bright objects it must be at least 50 to 100 m long tumble out from within the nuclear forall you believe that that is some kind of craft just like the one that was following uh the atlas 8f test but this time it was a real Warhead Kus shank also maintains that the recovery effort

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was documented in the original ship's deck logs and that a spherical debris with some very interesting properties was found these tests were overseen by the albuquer operations office whose atomic energy commission director was none other than Lawrence SK who happens to be Jeff bezos's maternal grandfather did everything you thought it would be but Jeff kushank is just one source and he's in Australia Harold melgram a direct advisor to four American Presidents including JFK is a

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man whose credentials are Beyond reproach and just look at what he tweeted am now reconstructing my personal interactions with Los Alamos Lawrence G bluegill ICBM interception tests 1961 62 and JFK visit to Los alos 1962 so it sounds like JFK might have gotten into UFOs in November of 1962 all of this might explain this letter of admittedly controversial provenance that was supposedly foed in 2005 it's from

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JFK but it's dated November 12th 1963 just 10 days before his death in the letter the president is asking the CIA director John mcon for all data on unknowns so the Americans could coordinate better with the Soviets on Dayton and so the Soviets wouldn't mistake UFOs for acts of American aggression all of this would also explain some very interesting recent statements made by Trump's FBI appointe cash Patel about the JFK file you're

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talking to a guy that's read the entire JFK file the things that we can't release have nothing to do with the questions you guys are asking the answers you guys want pretty much have them there is minimal stuff that can't be seen for things that you wouldn't even think or related to I want to be clear we don't have enough Clarity on the origins of this letter to know that it's conclusively real it was supposedly Foy

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by a guy in 2005 so I don't know if it's real but it fully comports with malm's story that JFK visited Los Alamos in ' 62 it also makes sense in the context of JFK's dayt efforts with Russia John Greenwald has done some good work investigating this document and has found some anomalies in it if any other researchers can either prove it to be a forgery or real that would be extremely helpful and revelatory so have at it but I digress let's move away from

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speculation and get back to the abundance of over overwhelming hard facts around the widespread UFO nuclear conviction that uh the video that you watched was not altered in any way and what is the source of that conviction if if you do do you know Luis alzando I do yeah he verified when he was in charge

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of atip he saw my my film my account it's been transferred to DVD at that point but he saw it and he said that's exactly what uh what I saw he saw the video and and we had it that's crazy because that's what I was gonna ask you he said he was like I think Lou has seen the video so you've seen the video yeah so you know this is a real thing yeah oh my God it's is the video do you still have the video or I don't have it was it was in pentagon with all my other files

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when when the Pentagon said they deleted everything of course we know they really didn't because really after they oh yeah oh yeah oh my God I know where everything is and then and then when I talked to Buddy mine apparently somebody went in and they they cleaned everything out but what they don't realize is that there's backups in a whole lot of places at that P okay the problem is if I say it right now they'll go and mysteriously a bunch of people's computers will wind up disappearing tomorrow so I'm just GNA wait until the right time and uh you know that stuff is alive and well I just

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wanted to put enough out there touch on all the most sensitive parts but I'm I don't want to overly disclose CU it's not my job someone told me that Dave grush was aware of the film and when he was on the task force he had a colleague check a military archive to see if they could find any confirmation of the Big Sir incident according to Dave this person did indeed find radar data confirming that an anomalous aerial object paced the Warhead uh I think that's about all I can say publicly at

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more accurately something has tampered with our nuclear capability Bob Jacob's incident at Big Sir was just one example of a UFO directly interfering with military technology just a few years later hundreds of miles away at mstom Air Force Base in Montana another unsettling event would take place this time affecting an entire row of intercontinental ballistic missiles good afternoon my name is solace in uh 1967 I was a first

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lieutenant uh station at malstrom Air Force Base Montana sometime in the evening hours on March 24th I I received a call from one of my uh topside guards the flight security controller stating that they had been observing strange lights in the sky making odd minutes later this time he was screaming into the phone saying uh they're uh

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looking at an object uh a red glowing object hovering just above our front gate I went to wake my commander Fred myal who was taking a a rest break started to tell him about the phone call and uh just as I told him our missiles began going into what's called a no-go condition or unlaunchable essentially they were disabled the missiles started shutting down or going off alert the

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only thing I could think was oh my God Bob Jameson you were there too right yes sir and you were in the Air Force yes I was in the Air Force where were you when this was happening yeah was a I'm targeting was a targeting officer missile targeting officer I was at home relaxing and I got a call from job control to tell them to come in and sure enough on job control they have a wall and they have green lights where all the missiles are on alert except for one

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corner all 10 missiles were off alert all 10 whole flight was off alert all red is it possible they just malfunctioned that doesn't happen very rarely does a missile malfunction and I don't think any much more rare would be two at the same time but never 10 and they told me yes it was a sheriff in Roy Montana reported UFO at the same time all the missiles went off alert the same person that told me all 10 missiles went off alert also told me that there was a

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UFO that went down into a canyon near a little town not far from mstom called Belt Montana it's a can there was a canyon there and there was a UFO trapped in the canyon the canyon is too steep to send men down in a night this is at night time walls are too steep to send men down at night or even a helicopter down through that so they're going to take in them soon as Dr daylight comes they're going to take some helicopters and bring go down in there and I found out later yeah as soon as daylight came they sent the helicopters and this UFO

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just went right through the helicopters and out between the helicopters and experienc and Bob Salis have reported um really amounted to some sort of Air Force drill Readiness drill how would you respond to that okay I've heard of that but I tell you right now the Pentagon the military will not shut down 10 strategic missiles just to hold a Fed

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test it's not worth it or if we hold down we only have we have a thousand had a thousand missiles at the time if you take 10 down you you St p a little bit of our national security and the P Pentagon the Air Force sack would not do that and they never have done it I've already mentioned my awareness of a radar tracking at mstom in the spring of 67 based on my knowledge of the time frame when I was at the tower um and the

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events that I witnessed on the radar screen where I was shown these five objects the T time of day that occurred in the evening it's conceivable that I witnessed uh what Bob was dealing with out at the missile site who uh makes the like encryption for these sort of systems is that the NSA is that the you know uh it's an Air Force system so I I'm assuming that all the coding and you know all the technical aspects are controlled by the Air Force okay uh Boeing is the main missile contractor um

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I know in fact uh there's a guy named Arie arnson who is a former Air Force uh officer and he in the course of giving this testimony public testimony publicly has said one of his jobs was to take the encrypted missile launch codes to the various missile sites wow so it's an Air Force operation wow mentioned here have experienced repeated UFO Encounters in fact in January of

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1993 combat targeting team member John Mills recalls driving with a six person crew back to mstom base where he was stationed and seeing a bright object zigzagging around the sky when the crew got back to command everybody at the vehicle equipment control Branch was saying that there had been anomalies all over the base that day it was an Open Secret that the site was covered in in North Dakota in

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1966 so 707 understood give me a couple historically these UFOs seem to toy with American nuclear sites turning them off at will but in this specific case in especially jarring one nuclear missiles were actually activated retired US Air Force Captain David shindel rememberers starting his shift and hearing reports about a bright red glowing object hovering over the base when AK came to the door I was met by the the site manager tech sergeant

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and he he put his hands out like this and he says that object out there had flashing lights he sort of indicated how big that that object was by putting his hands out like that and I estimated maybe it was 80 100 ft wide I don't know uh and probably about 100 ft away from theil the objects flew over alphaflight to Oscar flight giving erratic indications to the launch sites as it went Robert Hastings did a phone interview with Captain David Sher who actually received a launch indicator at

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his man post and as soon as you get that of course you got to you got to hit what call an inhibit switch that stops IT now what does that mean that actually a launch sequence has been triggered uh that means that the missile has has uh has been has received a launch signal oh be darn David Sher flipped his inhibit switch which only paused the launch countdown he still had to wait for a second inhibit switch to completely stop the sequence if just the one comes in it

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sits there for a certain amount of time and then it'll launch but then it launch automatically at the end of that expired time so if if that second one didn't come in then that one missile would launch theoretically theoretically had that ever happen before or after during your experience no he and his his uh the other Officer Down in the capsule they're freaking out you know this could be World War II if these

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missiles get off the ground had to very quickly shut down flipping flipping this inhibit switch are these entities in the UFOs are they trying to start World War III and my response is no in my opinion what they're attempting to do is to scare the hell out of the missile forces to show that they have the ability to interfere with the systems that they can activate the speak about this again and we were told

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that essentially it never happened um those were the the the words that were incidents were occurring at Ellsworth Air Force Base in South has an outer zone and an inner Zone an outer zone alert can happen frequently a cow rubbing against the fence a flock of Birds but an inner Zone alert or an Iz

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alert is very serious because it means something is directly above the missile is our Squadron command post and we had an oine and iine call it the strike crew is upstairs 3 to 5 miles away and they jumped in their trucks and went roaring out there and call me back and said sir for lack of a better description of the Flying Saucer hovering over that missile and there's a beam of reddish light going down to

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had an influx of black shoy helicopters completely unmarked I I walked up to one of them there wasn't they had to have a file somewhere written on there but you couldn't find a tail number and these Crews and dark clothes young sharp men obviously ex-military I would guess in SA I don't know I never everything slowed down they disappeared and we never got any feedback from the results to this day I'd love to know what they captured during that time

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because they were Conant this went on costly at at this time for about 3 months these sightings weren't limited to nuclear bases in the United States take the bentwaters rendlesham forest incident in England nuclear weapons being stored in Western Europe and they were really Cy about that for a long time after the cage the official policy to this day is my understanding is that the Air Force will neither confirm or deny the exact

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location of stored nuclear weapons Lieutenant Colonel Charles halt detailed the entire incident in a memo to the UK Ministry of Defense he said that a security patrol saw strange lights descending into the nearby rendlesham Forest US Air Force Sergeant named Jim

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penniston not only do you have multiple Witnesses but you also have one of the witnesses claiming to have been taken on board a craft and speaking to these alien beings you're talking about Burrows and peniston these two security policemen who saw this triangular-shaped craft in the woods peniston says he approached a triangular Black Metallic craft that was approximately the size of a pickup truck and was emitting bright lights and a strange energy he stated

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that he touched the surface of the craft noting smooth glass-like material and unusual symbols etched on its side that resembled hieroglyphs according to peneston he experienced a profound telepathic download of binary code after touching the craft he then transcribed this binary code into a notebook which was reportedly decoded years later to reveal cryptic messages origin year

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everyone knows the case they've they've given multiple interviews and so on but what I did from the outset was I knew that there was called a wsa a weapon storage area was at the bentwaters RAF bentwaters base and that there were reports that surfaced of uh one of the objects aerial objects hovering above the wsa and sending beams of light down into it now Colonel Hall when I interviewed him back in 2005 said he was out in the woods with this team

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everybody probably have a lot of people have seen uh these accounts where he's in the woods he's got his tape recorder they see this object that looks like an Ball moving through the woods and then they see objects in the sky one of which hovers over he and his team of security policemen and it fires down uh a beam of light at their feet and they jump back and they go you know you know are we being attacked is this a warning what's going on here well he was several miles he said a couple of miles from the weapon storage area but he heard on the

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radio that he had that security policeman back at the the weapon storage area were reporting an object hovering above the weapon storage area sending down beams of one of the security policemen who actually saw the beams coming down I was unsuccessful in that regard what I did succeed uh in getting were uh couple of guys on the record saying that there was an object that was a multicolor disc

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quite near them quite large and uh one of them said that when he when it was brought to his attention he turned around he saw something that looked like a rod or an antenna from the Bott of The Craft retracting into the craft and what I surmise is that antenna or Rod probably de uh release the beam when his back was turned and by the time he had returned the beam was gone and the the rod was reacting into uh retracting into the craft what I did independently

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succeed in doing was interviewing a retired Colonel who was involved with NATO weapon security he has not given me permission to use his name but I know his background his credentials and what he said was when he was with NATO weapons security uh he was aware that shortly after this incident two tactical nuclear bombs were removed from a bunker at bentwaters flown aboard a c5a aircraft to Kirtland Air Force Base uh

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where there's a weapons lab Air Force weapons lab and that those weapons were analyzed presumably to see whether any of the beams had impacted them in any manner and you know compromise their functionality or whatever I'm presuming I've never had a feeling of it extraterrestrial it's always been that they were simply us in the future and Jim peniston's career took sort of a hit

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after this too is that right uh Jim penison and I believe burough too but certainly Jim penison said that he was subjected to like sodium penthol some kind of drug was administered to him he was questioned uh sodium pentol that's like an MK Ultra thing it's a truth commonly known as truth s yeah and if I'm not mistaken panan is on record as saying he was a ministered something that was clearly designed to to uh affect his his mental state while

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he was being interrogated so he couldn't fabricate or potentially not tell the truth uh is the inference of what I've read him saying publicly but he said that there were British intelligence and Air Force intelligence in the room when this was being conducted on him one of the other Witnesses John buroughs a US Air Force Airman also experienced physical and psychological effects and burrow had some lingering effects around his his brain possibly the dorsal Statum

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the the Cotate uh and paman of his brain is that right there was some scarring there and his heart I mean he's had heart issues so I don't know the details but uh yeah he had physical effects certainly um basically that would be a result of high electromagnetic radiation in 1982 in the Soviet Ukraine

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has broken many UFO related stories over the years I believe in 1994 he went to Russia um which would have been about three years after the Soviet Union collapsed which was December of 1991 and he interviewed scores of former Soviet military personnel about UFO activity during the Soviet era one of the people that interviewed was a retired Soviet army colonel named Vladimir plantonoff who actually provided unbelievably

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provided nap with a series of still classified Soviet documents about UFO activity and actually allowed George to take him with him in his suitcase in in essence smuggle him back to the United States still classified documents and one of them described an incident in Soviet Ukraine where where a huge disc-shaped object a very large object was seen hovering over this missile base in Soviet Ukraine and down

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in one of the launch capsules uh suddenly the missiles went into countdown mode and apparently according to this document that George n brought to the West for 15 seconds these missiles were preparing to launch which had they indeed been launch it would could have been World War missiles had to be deactivated manually by their human operators but here they were mysteriously deactivated without

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any human intervention so was this just a display of technological superiority or was it an experiment to observe how humans respond to such scenarios okay but these are all historical cases is any of this going on today I'm aware of cases that have occurred at missile sites as recently as 2015 less than an hour about an hour on Saturday uh the base lost primary communication with about 50

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intercontinental ballistic missiles in 2010 at Fe Warren base in Wyoming Key Personnel reported multiple independent UFO sightings that coincided with a power failure these five missile alert facilities could not communicate with the base and vice versa if War or had been declared they would have not gotten their orders to launch their missiles big deal John Mills a retired missile targeting technician who still had many contacts at the base provided

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Robert Hastings with multiple sources who all described the craft as gray and shaped the description I got was the thing was as large as you know maybe an aircraft carrier wow it was cigar shaped it was Tic Tac shaped but it was not one of these small objects it was like quote a Mothership or something that's massive yeah you talk about that in in the book is perhaps and this is you theorizing there's a mother ship that's kind of can be large and cigar shaped and then saucers coming out of the mother ship

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and coming back into the mother ship that's been described all over the world and I I cite a handful of cases in my book where people are seeing this huge cigar-shaped object and out of one end or the other small dis shaped craft come out and fly in all directions the Air Force tried to downplay the incident blaming it on a faulty circuit card in fact they claimed they only lost communication for a mere 59 minutes but Robert Hastings being Robert Hastings did some back channeling according to

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John Mills the blackout actually persisted for over 26 hours and in October of 2010 the Atlantic wrote a pretty telling article it says and I quote President Obama was briefed this morning on a power failure at Fe Warren an Air Force Base in Wyoming that took 50 nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles one nth of the US missile stockpile temporarily offline on Saturday but here's where things get interesting as of the making of this

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video power in power failure is crossed out and replaced by the word engineering I think the Atlantic may have made a mistake here in showing the live tracking of this edit you can see it in this screenshot right here okay so at the very least we know that these missiles were rendered inoperable and it represented a large enough national security issue to brief the president and you told me some of these Witnesses had trouble in their careers after this they experienced some reprisals presumably someone was monitoring Communications between me and John and

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or he and the two technicians anyway someone was aware that they had been talking about these missile disruptions and a UFO presence and when they each these two individuals they coincidentally retired around the same time in in the spring of 2011 they were told on on each occasion uh during their exit interview from the air force that a flag was being put in their folders uh citing them as a security risk so that

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if they sought employment with like an aerospace company or something uh in the future they would you know the if someone checked their Air Force file they would be the Air Force would have designated them to be security risk Nellis Air Force Base Nevada area 2 weapon storage area more recently civilians citing reports in Orange County California at the uh Naval uh Seal Beach Naval weapons station a

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series of bunkers again containing nuclear weapons uh there were local media reports of multiple sightings in March of 09 near this weapon storage uh this is ongoing uh this is the tip of the iceberg uh we can only catch as catch can uh I am of the opinion that for every incident that I'm aware of and for witnesses that we've uh we've got in hand there could be 10 there could be a 100 there could be many many more incidents that I'll never know about

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because the people won't come forward they'll wait years or decades to talk about what they know brother there's reports right now online anybody can see them the government released a bunch of UF related documents not too long ago a few years ago thinking nobody would pay attention I think like 10,000 reports yeah and when you look in there you see actual verbatim UFO incidents back in the 50s and 60s over the F Savannah River facility over what Oakridge National Laboratory and by the way it's still happening today what the [ __ ] is

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that bro see how it goes you're telling me we don't know what what the hell these drones are in New Jersey are is that correct that's right it's crazy recently there have been a flurry of new sightings that confirm the UFO nuclear connection is ongoing strange objects have been hovering near bases in the UK and sensitive military sites in New Jersey just a couple of months earlier there were several mystery drone flights over our nuclear testing range

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in Nevada just north of Las Vegas and again nothing was done and where else Are UFOs showing up right now I've just received information in the last few minutes about the peg nuclear site at Salem uh which is the Hope Creek Generating Station on a 740 acre a site in Salem County New Jersey and a person who is privileged enough to have access to the internal messaging about that Nuclear Station has told me that they tried to deploy an anti-drone technology

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over multiple drones that were seen over the nuclear site and that anti- drone Dr technology which normally works on all drones completely failed outside of New Jersey where else have these UFOs shown up none other than the epicenter of all UFO reverse engineering rumors since Roswell right Patterson Air Force Base Med flight at patteron Tower use Extreme Caution for heavy uas uh movement on the base Security Forces is handling the situation what else when it comes to

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today's sightings rhymes with the past Chris Mel the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence under both Clinton and Bush discusses a fascinating case on his blog UFO researcher Brad Sparks thoroughly documented a UFO heading towards Eisenhower's summerh home in 1957 that was noted and documented secretly both by NORAD and project blo book at the

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presidential brief including both Eisenhower and all of the directors of the US intelligence community that Monday morning September 23rd as officially documented by NORAD the UFOs were tracked on multiple Radars simultaneously they varied in speed from 800 mph to 12,000 mph with Peak velocity occurring at 19,000 mph they varied an altitude from 50,000 135,000 Ft which remains unattainable by

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Aerospace Vehicles even now and yes they were headed directly at President Eisenhower's summer White House and now we find out that Donald J Trump the next American president had to skip his trip to his Bedminster New Jersey summer home because of these New Jersey drones they happen to be over Bedminster I think maybe I won't spend the weekend in Bedminster I've decided to cancel my trip and what else does Trump say when he's asked about these EXO I drones in

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their Origins our military knows where they took off from if it's a garage they can go right into that garage they know where it came from and where it went I can't imagine it's the enemy because it was the enemy that blast it out even if they were late that blasted uh something strange is going on for some reason they don't want to tell the people and they should so they're strange they're likely not the enemy and we know where they're coming from I would love to know the location of this

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in November of 2024 bro what is that there's a third one oh my God here's the thing these are not flashing lights like there are no Runway lights these are where exactly was this film right near Duke Energy's Brunswick nuclear plant in Southport North Carolina I mean look the American people aren't stupid you know um they're they're not they may be be some sometimes we might be a little bit slow uh to realize what's going on but you know in the words of Bob Marley you can fool some people sometimes but you can't

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fool all the people all the time and that's precisely I think what's what's happening here this Administration has been caught lying about a lot of things and look this is not an anti liberal or democrat thing this is just a dysfunctional Administration what's going on in New Jersey right now with the so-called drones yeah let me tell you one not they're not drones they aren't drones the US Air Force off alus skates everything the US Air Force says they're drones don't you [ __ ] believe

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thing that I saw did not happen the US Air Force lies they OB obviously the Administration for Crown Outlaw came out and said uh they're they're hallucinations they're not hallucinations look those things are not just in New Jersey they're in Great Britain they're in Australia they're in they're in the Middle East they're all over this country laen Heath milen Hall feltwell fairford Ramstein Air Force Base Wright patteron Nevada National Security Site Hill Air Force Base

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Lawrence Livermore lab Edwards Air Force Base and Marine Corps base Camp Pendleton I don't want to sound like like I'm an an all all knowing Guru about UFOs but those are UFOs we are we are this close to nuclear Annihilation right now yes the danger has never been worse never been more harsh have been more believable so what are we seeing with these quote unquote Jersey drones well there's a great General model for critical thinking proposed by Thomas baze an 18th century British

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statistician and philosopher it says that when you're looking at new data you should use prior data to analyze it if somebody lies to you about important information four times and you catch them in those lies the fifth time they say something to you you should maybe doubt the veracity of what they're saying so if you don't have the data from Robert Hastings work your analysis of what's happening today in New Jersey and all around the world is going to be wildly off you're going to be subject to psychological manipulation by the media

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Pentagon and pretty much anyone trying to explain these sightings away as mass hysteria hobbyist drones or covert game array detectors looking for nuclear material on the Eastern Seaboard all of these lies seem more likely as possibilities for truth if you don't have any prior data but if you do know that DC was overrun by UFOs in 1952 if you know about Lincoln Lea's work if you know about Bob Jacobs sighting at Vandenburg in ' 64 if you know about

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what Robert Salas experienced in 1967 if you know about the Fe Warren case as late as 2010 then all of this might seem more likely to be a simple UFO flap the likes of which we've been seeing for the last 75 years with the exact same characteristics as what we're seeing longstanding widespread and ongoing what

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did it feel like when he was looking at you I felt scared felt scared because I've never seen such a person I've that before in 1994 62 elementary school kids at the the aerial School in Zimbabwe said that they saw a silver craft descend from the sky and land on a field near the school well guess where the aerial school was and you know an aerial school that was near a uranium uh mining site that is right that's where understand and what about that story

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that Vice ran in 2022 about a little town in Japan that's obsessed with UFOs it's a place called Eno and it's actually right next to fukushima's nuclear grid which has been up and running since the 70s because the town has been such a UFO hotspot they even built a museum dedicated to UFOs in the90s and after an earthquake famously triggered a nuclear power meltdown there 2011 the chief monk of a local temple said the UFOs came after the explosion

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there were so many of them I was shocked radioactive energy was leaking everywhere I believe the UFOs came to readjust the flood of radioactive energy in order to save us similarly Harvard PhD Jensen Andre writes about UFO activity at the height of the troby disaster when many people in the area observed a UFO come stay for 3 minutes shine a light at the reactor and depart I could go on all day in 1973 Charles

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Hixon and Calvin Parker claimed that they were abducted and examined before being released by aliens while fishing near Pascagoula Mississippi once inside the crab Hixon remembers being examined by an oblong shaped instrument that hovered around him he was completely paralyzed only his eyes could move this came to be known as the famous Pascagoula abduction well people rarely point out that Pascagoula is a strategic nuclear site in fact it's where most of the American nuclear subs were built at

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the time even take the famous 2004 nimit sighting where a Tic Tac was detected by the USS Princeton aircraft carriers like the US us s Princeton are notoriously nuclear powered and they might have some relevant Precious Cargo on board even the nimit sighting of 2004 Lou alzando I think he's sort of bound by his you know obligations and and clearance and stuff and so he has to say you know I think Nimitz might be nuclear powered and then he's now gone as far as saying and it

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might carry some tactical nukes on board on board or whatever okay you get it UFOs show up at nuclear sets but beyond atic interference with our signals how do we know they're occupied by any sort of sensient beings how do we even know these things are real physical aircrafts that Land There were just multi levels with with all these small Grays everywhere and I was following one and even the floor and the boards around the bottom of the floor had energy was everything emanated power I sat down

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with Mario Woods a former US Air Force Security responder in 19 1977 he was stationed at Ellsworth Air Force Base in Dakota then age 23 he experienced an incident that would change him forever literally leaving him with missing time marks on his body and a collie locked in catatonic shock for hours okay so you're in El Ellsworth Air Force Base it's 1977 you have a partner that you're working

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with his name yeah Michael Johnson he's a real light-skinned black guy told me he was from Chicago Illinois M and we only worked together that one day he was working vacation relief for my partner whose name was Steve welchel I guess it was about uh 9:00 9:15 or so and I just walked outside and you know you're talking Prairie Land as far as you can see north and east and west and you don't see South because the buildings behind you and uh I see this light off to my East it looks like a like a Mini

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Moon I I honestly thought it was the uh Landing lights or some type of Landing lights for B-52 bombers because the main base supported aircraft of and his partner tw- man security alert team partner uh are called suddenly there's an alert because some kind of intrusion at one of the missile sites is going on and they didn't didn't know

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what that was all about well he and his partner drove to that site and as we turned left there sat this object on top of November 5 that was about 10 ft in the air directly on top of that blast door that was the size of a Walmart didn't even get to to radio to base to tell them what they saw and all of a sudden according to Mario

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um he uh and and his partner suddenly it was like all the air in the crew cab was sucked out and they were suffocating they both suddenly started you know gasping for air literally could not get a breath of air now I don't know if that was from my excitement I don't know it's from adrenaline I I'm 23 years old I was in excellent shape I feel something on my right side and I turn my head and I see these four

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I'm going to call them beings and they are not walking as you and I walk they are just gliding across the ground maybe I don't know how high off the ground I couldn't really see that but they have these little Uniforms on and the one on the far right he had some type of a small wand in his waist belt I've got a drawing of it that had a yellow tip on it some type of of a yellow tip but the one behind them was was a was a chest

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and a head taller than the little guys and he had this thing on his chest right here that that pulsated the same color as what was on that little wand and when I saw him then then I was afraid then I just went that's the last thing that I saw in my mind and then the next thing he knew and it seemed like the next minute uh he was

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somewhere that he didn't really recognize and somebody from base was calling on the radio saying where are you where are you what turned out to be the case was he his partner and the truck had been transported roughly five miles to a reservoir near a little town of New South came and I said I don't know where I am

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I don't know where we are so I kept trying to communicate with Michael Johnson he wouldn't answer me in any way he was just frozen in this position looking straight ahead I even tried pulling his hand off that steering wheel and he was just I I I don't know how a person can stay that tense and for so long that he don't cramp up I would cramp up doing that but he did even though it was terribly cold at night I mean just ice cold frigid he stepped out on the ground and sunk in

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wet mud so somehow the mud had been heated up right around the truck and he was standing you know like ankle deep deep in wet mud on a Subzero winter night did Michael Johnson ever make it out of his catatonic State your partner no no not while we were there when Sergeant guards are pulled up he pulled up within say 60 ft I said hey sarden Garza how's it going I said what's going on he said Mario I can't talk to you about this he

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said I'm just here to escort you back to November control so they lead him back to base uh he's debriefed basically by I think the squadron commander and someone who turned out to be an OSI agent um he's taken to the base hospital and examine he finds I think it was on his forehead and his ankle there was a circular uh wound or depression of some kind with a little dimple in the center do you still have the marks at all yeah can I see him

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sure had these socks on SC blood up you can see it wow yeah those look I mean just like perfectly vertically aligned but like so clearly not like a spider but like too way too big for that like you know yeah they just kept asking questions and I and I got to the point where it was just everything was just at one time coming from every Space in My Mind questions about the whole deal and I said hey I said I got to go to the restroom and I just went and sat on the

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toilet and all of a sudden Jesse I get this ringing in my ears that was as if somebody struck a Liberty Bell right next to my head I mean really I have to emphasize that cuz it was like it got my attention but when it happened everything turned like lime green to me like PE green I closed my eyes and when I did I had this feeling I was leaving my body literally I was I I you know I thought I was dying I said I guess this

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is this this is how you die so they they left or were're leaving and I opened up the stall door and I just went to the sink and mind you I still have on my long johns and my fatigue pants and shirt and just drowning myself with water I was just soaking wet because Master Sergeant gray said something to me as I came out there he said what' you do climb in the sink or something like that and I and I did I don't even know if I answered I just said yes sir um so I grabbed my stuff and immediately

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I said well what about Michael Johnson he said don't worry about him he'll be going with Sergeant Hawkins I said okay and I really wanted to talk to him but immediately upon arrival at that site we were separated right then and there now I don't know what good it would have done because he wasn't coherent or wasn't answering or anything anyway so he hadn't said a word to not one word that I knew of not one word he hadn't said anything to me or to anybody else that was there every time I ask about Michael Johnson they tell they kept telling me don't worry about Michael Johnson he's fine he's fine

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really bothered me yeah it just I almost sounds like they're covering for something yeah he don't worry about Michael Johnson he is fine off we went to elworth and it was about an hour 10-minute ride back to Ellsworth went to Ralph East breer's office under escort and I remember him saying sounds as if you've had an interesting evening or night or something like that and I said yes sir and I look to my left and there's there's a total of five people in that room there's the deputy base commander who I don't remember his name but next

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to him was a man in a gray Tweed uh suit with a hat and the hat was under his arm then there was a captain uh Jack Reed OSI next to him was this new OSI guy named Dodie interesed yeah because the first time I saw him was on Ancient Aliens and I said I know that guy he was at my debrief I was a Counter Intelligence officer for the Air Force office special

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investigation I was personally fascinated by the fact that Richard Dodie had been involved in the aftermath of Mario's case I knew about Dodie because of a great book called project beta by Greg Bishop Dodie was an Air Force Counter Intelligence agent basically tasked with performing a psychological operation on an innocent researcher named Paul benowitz who had seen an exotic craft at Kirtland Air Force Base Dodie convinced benowitz that he was in touch with aliens even receiving signals on his computer this eventually drove benowitz into

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psychiatric hospitalization so the fact that Dodie was part of Mario's debrief is fascinating seems very important and requires followup by some brave souls and up to that point I had no nobody yeah I I i' had nobody that could say yeah they were there or what have you know what have you I tried running down my old flight Chief and assistant flight Chief but with no success or anybody else and especially Michael Johnson some money has been spent trying to locate Michael Johnson we've looked in hospitals we've looked in can't find them anywhere no sir and I reported that

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the arrow in March of uh 23 I think when I spoke with them did errow follow up at all I don't know they never got back with me and 4 hours in 19 minutes I spoke with them that's crazy yeah and they said I would get a copy of everything which had been you know talked about can you contact Michael Johnson's family I don't have any way I don't have any any numbers or anything he said he was from Chicago Illinois believe me every resource including other law enforcement officers that I know today's technology have not located

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him yet neither has Arrow so what what was your interaction with doie you mean in the email initially no when you first meet him he's in this room full of five people yeah nothing not one thing we never spoke or anything like that he was directly reporting to Captain Jack Reed next to him so that's fascinating right that this guy who's clearly this disinfo agent you know at least in the context of Beno and he don't know brand new he was brand new then so as a person that's very high in

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this whole thing said those were the days that when he was probably honestly not not uh changed in any way perhaps I I just want to say that the right way cuz we you know we uh I email him once in a while um and he'll answer me back whereas it took me about five years to get him to even do that and then we got to be on a a cast together so real quick just context he now has come out saying

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he's reformed and he apologizes for you know his malpractice in the past uh a lot of people are susp icious of that reform it does feel a little bit sometimes to me like he's flooding The Zone with this info like he'll talk about you know six alien races this Crystal rectangle came from an actual alien craft and it just seems extremely speculative and not based on any sort of evidence corre very weird yeah it's it's uh it's more than I know how to swallow I only know that uh what I witnessed is

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my incident so how many were is my benefactor he supported my research he paid to have Mario regress uh regression hypnosis session in the video of the session uh where Mario is being regressed back to that night uh he becomes utterly terrified I've never seen anybody uh reliving an abduction

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experience had a very l p small Grays but the one behind them I guess you would classify him as a tall gray on Whitley streer book communion MH of course the first time I saw that picture I froze in my I froze in my in my stride MH and I had to have that book and uh Barnes & Noble or wherever it was

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at the time when it came out and I literally before I opened the first to the first page I literally just sat and stared at that picture for many hours before I ever even read his book what was the craft like so you're you're in the inside of this thing what did it look like a beehive H beehive yeah how so well there were uh from my looking around as I did in that playground like I always try to take a a mental picture of something

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all these small Grays everywhere going to and fro and doing whatever they were doing I just got to look for a moment and I was following one and even the floor and the boards around the bottom of the floor uh had energy was everything emanated power in some way uh the walls uh was there humming Associated not that I can remember and it almost felt like the tall gray was maybe in charge of these smaller Grays

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absolutely in that room another thing too PE uh I was not on a table I was uh from my memory I was on some type of a kind of uh beam or something that was body length about 4T in the air and uh as like a a a strange light would not a strange

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was as if I was inserted in something that was some type of a force field or some kind of a a holding field that they could move you around in like a gurnie without wheels a table without a back or or wheels or legs attached to it and I felt as if you know they when they reached in or when he lifted my arm up lifted me up right here on my wrist you know it exited that that pyramidal field or whatever it was above

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me and it was in his atmosphere at that uh if you had kind of a best guess do you think they had positive intentions or negative or I think they had positive what do you think but they fulfilled their mission whatever that mission is whether it's to obtain DNA material or what have you or some kind of a or I don't know any whatever they want to do they're going to do outside of like the obvious which is you experienced this kind of crazy paranormal disruption in your life uh

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did this kind of was this an inflection point or did it change your life in a dramatic way afterward it did how so I had to find out everything about archaeology and pyramids M and so that was just something that it almost felt like it was installed inside of you or downloaded yes and why still today why do you think you became so interested in that I have no nhi they're similarly as advanced as us

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but they've just made they've what is it asymmetric Evolution or whatever they they went a different path where we made nuclear weapons and stuff they ended up making this like civil propulsion kind of equivalent um discovery where they're able to do this now but they're actually not that much more advanced than you and I it just makes you wonder how much technology that has been buried somehow or another has been removed from our

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everyday conscious thought I do think that this technology that we're speaking of even though we don't know it truly exists it points to its existence in some way and one day I think we will find the magic key somewhere there's a craft if it hasn't already been discovered that's sitting in a cave somewhere or under the ocean somewhere under a ledge somewhere or maybe even circling the planet invisible that we can't see we're going to run into one day I don't

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this point in the interview uh well demonstrated pattern between UFOs and nuclear weapons uh and this brings up a really interesting kind of weird analog to all of this which is that you know Gary Nolan Stanford microbiologist has said that historically Legacy UFO programs have used nuclear material or sometimes even phony nuclear material to bait UFOs to show up and I believe we even have documentation that the Russians did this in the 90s as well do

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you have anything to say about that um I I'm aware that a a former or retired Soviet army colonel has said I can't remember the gentleman's name but uh he's he's on video on the internet saying that uh at some point during the Soviet era he was part of a military exercise uh that was intentionally designed to try to attract UFOs and what they began doing was doing military exercises like Maneuvers with no nuclear

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components just conventional armaments and so on and then they waited to see what would happen and there were no UFO sightings as soon as they brought nuclear Battlefield Battlefield nukes to the the equation and they were out in the field with the other armaments suddenly UFO sightings began and so in this Colonel's estimate they succeeded in attracting whoever was flying the UFOs by merely introducing the presence of nuclear weapons to the situation are

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you familiar with the Chinese science fiction novel The Three body problem no well in it basically the non-human intelligence or aliens or whatever uh have a special interest in scientists working on the most Frontier technology uh and they view that technology as most deadly or likely to end the world and so in some cases they actually intentionally kind of stagnate the physics or stag or send send uh you know scientists in the wrong direction or sort of use confusion tactics to

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actually get them to stall their progress and I've actually heard in a couple couple of instances that uh the aliens might be interested in other sort of Frontier Tech like proximity fuses you know other sorts of things like that do you think that maybe we are being prompted on the one hand scientifically for certain you know past creations and then maybe there needs to be kind of inep you know uh progress made with our Consciousness and if that's not made the nhi actually have to step in and kind of

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stop things and the nuclear thing is this big juncture where you have this big asymmetric leap on the tech front you don't have the asymmetric Consciousness leap and so that's why it's so consistent with nukes in particular um my my personal opinion is that we have had probably ongoing contact with whoever these entities are for thousands of years I think it's conceivable they've interjected themselves into our culture and maybe even our biology um I'm not Ware of any

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you know definitive evidence but I wouldn't be surprised if they had interjected themselves into our Evolution to upgrade the species so to speak can't prove that of course I don't think anyone can but I think it's an hypothesis um the the link between an increase in sightings and the the Advent of the nuclear age is Thoroughly documented uh the people on the inside like Lou Who are now coming forward and talking Lou alzando confirm that you

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know that um what my Witnesses have told me over the years you know is is a central part of the equation uh the nuclear link with with UFO activity um so in answer to your question I don't know I I I don't have any way of evaluating What specifically has been done whether they prompted Us in some ways and held us back in other ways I don't know we are not here to evangelize any single Theory that's up for you to decide we're just going to lay some of these theor out for you number one the

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benevolent protector Theory these UFOs are here because they don't want us to ourselves by tampering with our nukes they want to show us that we're playing with fire join us and live in peace or pursue your present course and face obliteration it's kind of like taking matches out of the hands of a baby whoa yeah W right if they are out there and they are disabling our nukes they're not doing it because they're a threat to us they're doing it because we're a threat to ourselves and maybe

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we're a threat to some aspects of the universe number two parasitic host Theory maybe UFOs are in fact deterring us from nuclear war but because they're just protecting their resources they're mining us for something and don't care about us at all by the way this is not mutually exclusive with benevolent protector Theory especially if there are factions of non-human intelligence if they have projects here if they have bases here they have bases

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here a worldwide nuclear catastrophe is going to drastically impact what they've got going on in addition to what we as humans in our civilization have at risk and therefore it doesn't have to necessarily be just altruistic it could be a self-serving motivation as well number three UFOs are somehow affected by the electromagnetic Fallout from tests gamma radiation following Atomic blasts messes with the flight path of

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UFOs and Pops them into our reality this is a very interesting Theory and still very possible but it wouldn't fully explain why UFOs show up around Atomic assets when there are no blasts again this theory is not mutally exclusive with option one or two number four simulation Theory humans are in a low-level time-bound Dimension that these UFOs have transcended the

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UFOs want to monitor our ability to break out of our simulation one of the ways to break out would be through high energy Nuclear Physics right now our biggest nukes emit 80 to 100 megatons of of TNT we might be able to start ripping little holes in SpaceTime so aliens might be monitoring the axis of human

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progress in energy output as we inch out of our 3D time down cave I think the Zar bomb is something like 10 the 6 tons of TNT or something the largest nuclear detonation yeah and I think once you get to 10 to the 9th and up you know you start to rip little holes in SpaceTime or something like that and so is there something around nuclear that somehow speaks to the fabric of SpaceTime itself and allows us to see other worlds that might exist all

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the time but we just somehow don't have the aperture for it without this sort of nuclear leakage what I've said and when I hear that you know you have to consider that every star in the universe is nothing but non-stop nuclear detonations you know on a vastly larger scale than what we hum humans do here on Earth you know so one would think if somehow our detonations are ripping holes in SpaceTime why wouldn't every star in the universe rip holes in SpaceTime but you know so that's my

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point number five UFOs are just secret American anti-gravity exotic propulsion collocated on nuclear bases as somebody who's gone decently deep on Gravity Research mid-century I would actually entertain this but it just doesn't account for what happened to Mario woods and Jim penniston at rendlesham this also wouldn't explain UFO sightings around nuclear bases that occur as early as the' 40s I just don't believe that man-made exotic propulsion technology was that good at the time number six and

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maybe my favorite Theory I think this is as entertaining as it is maybe unlikely but there are apparently folks in the American National Security State that say that the German Netflix show dark points to bits of reality in this Theory nuclear fuels were used mid-century to alter gravity we know that gravity and time are linked in general relativity so maybe with the Exotic Gravity Research we were doing in the ' 50s we were also looking into manipulating time and that

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research may have been taking place on nuclear bases across the United States I admit it's hard for me to believe that we've perfected time travel but if we do ever perfect time travel in the future these programs would be collocated at our most sensitive National Security you know Lawrence Lawrence Bell is so Bell aircraft so they broke the sound barrier in 1947 X15 X15 Chuck Jagger exactly and so there's an article in

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1956 where they're saying we're going to beat gravity and it's right around the bend and Lawrence Bell's quote from this article is we are already working with nuclear fuels to cancel out gravity and so you got to think if if time travel is possible at any point in the future it's probably all always been possible right and so where would we discover some sort of time travel program it would probably be collocated with nuclear programs absolutely so and then how would you affect timelines you might do it with you know particular people who represent

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kind of nodes or whatever who get interested in things like pyramids after you know their encounters and so do you think that you know that's a possible explanation that maybe a future time travel program represents an overlay over all of these nuclear sites in a way that somehow you know might profoundly shift humanity and might also Keep Us Alive because if you think about what where is the center of the Apocalypse it's these nuclear sites I mean where what what's going to you know dictate

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the end of the world or not you know it's going to be these sites so maybe with UFO abductions we are experiencing remnants of a future time travel program that is collocated with our nuclear assets just look at what famed director Steven Spielberg had to say what if they're not from an advanced civilization 300 million Lighty years from here but what if it's us 500,000 years into the future in fact the most prolific gravity related

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inventor mid century was the aforementioned Thomas Townsen brown but people don't know that Townsen Brown was actually obsessed with time travel he even sort of referred to himself as a time traveler when I asked Brown's daughter what Townsen would be up to if he is in fact a time traveler this is what she had to happening that's truly dangerous probably would be

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the if someone was trying to get ready to launch my dad would be rearranging their figures so they wouldn't come up with what they thought Theory might be imperfect or rather incomplete it would not for example explain UFOs coming out of the plume of nuclear blasts I should also add that none of these theories really characterize the beings

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themselves they could be a whole host of things time traveling humans remnants of a technologically advanced civilization collocated on Earth or are your classic and not to confuse you too much but even these options could be false dichotomies and are not always mutually exclusive free your

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sometimes I see us when we're being crazy and talking about nuclear world that we might be cage 22 and a in a universal lab somewhere and they come and check us every once in a while to see if we're going to kill each other and they might be just monitoring us to keep us peaceful no way of telling it's been so uh they've been so uh not physical so far so I hope it's that and I hope there's something good to come asking why isn't this more widely known

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UFOs showing up across the most sensitive Global nuclear sites that's insane and everyone should know about I agree with you now would probably be a good time to note the people who have done the most damage to the UFO conversation have come from the same atomic programs that are actively investigating UFOs and trying to keep them secret I find it really interesting that you have some of the most prominent debunkers guys like Menzel guys like Condon HP Robertson who were kind of big

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shots who also worked on the Manhattan Project Condon was involved oh I didn't that he uh worked with vavar bush a lot oh yeah yeah the Condon committee was supposed to be an open independent investigation of UFOs in 1966 at the tail end of Project Blue Book among the Project's dozen experts are director Dr Edward Condon formerly physicist with the National Bureau of Standards the whole project was led by a Quantum physicist named Edward cond Air

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Force wanted to get out of this job they commissioned a study from University of Colorado Ed Condon led the studies Manhattan Project Alum he wrote the conclusion of the study before the study was complete bragged about it a lot of the scientists on the study defected publicly from the study the study got published the content of the study is uh at odds with the conclusions but the Air Force canceled project bluewick anyway what most people don't know is that Edwin Condon was a complete Manhattan

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Insider he was very close to Robert Oppenheimer having studied under Max born with him at Gan in Germany in the 20s in fact Conan and Oppenheimer were so close that Condon was partly credited for picking Los Alamos as the focal point for the Manhattan Project he knew the area well having grown up around the corner in Alamagordo he also recruited a lot of the Project's early staff and wrote the Los Alamos primer which all employees had to read upon arrival we would welcome not only better

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evidence about the but also uh also suggestions as to better ways of Investigation the Condon commission was a supposedly independent UFO review panel paid for but not influenced by the Air Force but later from verified letters we learned that Condon was closely coordinating with Air Force Colonel Robert hippler who had expressed pretty clear written desire that all previous UFO research including Project Blue Book be shown as a waste of time

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and money Condon successfully performed his hit job Blue Book ended and UFO research would become quackery for another 50 years now fast forward to today arrow is a member of the Department's support to the administration's tiger team effort to deal with stratospheric objects such as the PRC high altitude balloon hero continues this tradition of downplaying dismissing or even possibly destroying UFO evidence after having some pretty interesting ties to nuclear programs in

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in in uh early 2023 January 2023 Kurt McConnell who is a retired uh Senate armed service committee investigator contacted me and said Arrow wants you to get together some of the veterans who had experiences at nuclear weapons sites and they want to interview them would you be willing to do that so long story short I think it was 11 people uh veterans I had interviewed over the years went and spoke with arrow

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and um so at some point this would have been March of 2023 uh McConnell Kurt McConnell sent me an email saying I drove Lou down to his interview with arrow on the way back from his interview Lou told me that he told Kurt Patrick that he had seen the Big Sur film The shootdown of a dummy nuclear warhead by a UFO that Dr Bob Jacobs has talked about for for decades and decades Lou told Kurt Patrick where

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at he had seen the film The it was in a safe a safe drawer I was told and Kirk Patrick allegedly went and looked at the tried to find it and claimed it was not there he's now left Arrow but he is part of the you know supposed official UFO review program and so we're now saying that actually UFO programs were probably really bound up with American atomic program since kind of you know 1940s 1950s and you look at Sean Kirkpatrick's

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track record and his resume in when he was 17 years old he was given a grant by the department of energy because of you know impressing them at Brook Haven lab or I think he he went to Brook Haven Labs as a result of this grant or something he worked at Oakridge National Laboratory you know clear Atomic site you know one of the oldest ones in in Tennessee if you look at some of his research gate papers they're very interesting when it comes to the UFO phenomena that's all I'll say I think viewers should go you know look up you know some of this stuff uh his company

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was released I believe uh and it was called nonlinear you know LLC something like that nonlinear algebra is one of the things that you know you need when studying gravity and some of this kind of weirder stuff and then finally the only thing he he consistently says is we have no evidence of extraterrestrials he always says that extraterrestrial extraterrestrial extraterrestrial is an extrapolation that is a an you know a conclusion that you've come to that this thing is definitely from Zeta reticuli or proximus sari or some other planet

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right so it's very easy to say that and act like you're not lying when of course we don't have EV there are probably theorists still working on where these things are from are they are they from other planets are they from you know different dimensions and time who knows right but it's very easy for him to do that and he just rests on that over and over again so when I wrote to the veterans uh I'm still in touch with roughly 20 people that I interviewed years ago and I still have contact information for them so I wrote to all those guys I think it was 11 of roughly

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20 who agreed to speak with arrow in the email that I sent to these guys I said my opinion is that arrow is a front it's it's the conon committee 2.0 uh in my opinion Kurt Patrick is a shill for somebody possibly CIA Dia NSA whoever I said you can you know talk your heart out and describe what you happened to you in the missile field but they're not going to take it seriously but I might be wrong and on the the off

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chance that Miracles sometimes happen maybe your testimony will have some some you know impact and therefore I I urge you to go and speak to Arrow well they did and uh I subsequently learned that Arrow the people that uh took the testimony from these veterans did not record them they were told the couple of the veterans were told well we're taking notes well if you're conducting a serious investigation you you want to tape record every word every grunt every

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syllable and they did not record any of the interviews according to the veterans and they they quote took notes and then the culmination of course was when Kirk Patrick uh addressed Senator gillibrand's Committee in April of 23 and said we had Point Blank you know blanket statement we were presented with no evidence that these were extraterrestrial Craft um and all the veterans immediately you know with over the course of a few days wrote to me and said you know they betrayed us arrrow

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betrayed us Kirk Patrick betrayed us you know we we stuck our necks out and talked about UFO shutting down our nuclear missiles in the 60s and 70s before you know decades Before we or the Russians or the Chinese had any technology that could have done what we saw with our own eyes clearly it was something off earth going on and yet you know we we stuck our necks out talked to arrow and that's what this guy says to to Congress yeah you have these American Patriots who signed up to guard our most

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important National Defense assets who've been traumatized by what they've seen and just want the American public to know the basic ontological truth of what experienced and which is an experience that is widespread and it's Global and it's not conferring any sort of you know advantage to an adversary by letting this out yeah and you have this guy in Kirk Patrick and this is why I think it needs to be more widely known because it's I think I've heard that a lot from people on the inside where it's like hoping on a Prayer I mean I think arrow is worthless but maybe I'll testify you

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know and talk to them right I think it's more Insidious than that I think they take your testimony and they try to destroy the evidence and so it's just absolutely horrible uh I I have never from day one thought that there was any Merit to Arrow and I still don't and no matter who's in control the fix is in it's you know it's a smoke screen it's more of Project Blue Book you know for our time frame and what about Brook Haven National Labs in Long Island have any crashes occurred there it's about

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7:00 at night and being November it was full dark and all of a sudden it was lighter out than it is right now Brook Haven is associated with Stony Brook University and the legendary hedge fund manager and mathematician Jim Simons now just look at who ran the independent NASA review panel on uaps in 2022 might they have any ties to Jim Simons you don't have to like be the conspiracy theorist drawing the red dots of yarn to be like here's a

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black here's a money-making machine started by a guy deeply connected to the NSA that's also like a super physics genius and it can attract the smartest physics and math people on the planet to work for his blackbox money machine and his you know guy running his his private Research Foundation and and fundamental physics gets tapped to run the UAP working group for NASA yeah a working group that sort of says you know nothing to see here like we we'll keep an open mind but there's probably nothing here which I find interesting it is essential to clarify

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based on our current findings and methodology that we find no evidence to suggest that UAP are extraterrestrial in origin I don't want to at on this too much I'm just the messenger for more information on this you should watch this amazing interview that Eric Weinstein did on Joe Rogan I'm linking it in the description if I was going to locate a Manhattan Project in plain sight uh and get us news and world to report this as a minor player in uh in research that's where I'd go you can't let the fox watch the hen house and if

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if you have uh a agency or a group within the defense department or the intelligence community running the show and allegedly investigating UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites you're going to get nowhere quick and that's the whole idea do you feel like your Communications are being tracked or no question what do you have any clear concrete examples that will show people that you're not being paranoid I went out on the lecture circuit for the first time in September of 81 and spoke at I believe 16 schools

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between September and the end of the okay and in my audiences at various schools around the country veterans would come up to me and say I know what you're talking about I was involved this that and the other I would say can we talk about this on the phone when I get off the lecture circuit you know I'll be home early next year 82 and some said yes some said no but I did interview a handful of veterans uh from home over the phone and tape the conversations with their permission uh

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in most cases in some cases they didn't want them taped but anyway they were telling me about what they had witnessed at various missile bases through the through the years and um after each one of those calls this was primarily in February of 82 I would talk to them thank them hang up the phone within a minute or five or 10 the phone would ring I would pick it up and there would be nothing but heavy breathing in the phone that's creepy

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our government does not necessarily blink trying to turn your reputation into absolute garbage if you get close to its treasured sources and methods yeah and that is not compatible with saying that we have something that we don't understand menacing our military it's airspace and our nuclear sites I stated to you that I would not mention very much of it to anybody except my fellow missileers because I didn't want to get investigated by the office of special

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investigation sometimes known as OSI I did not want it to reflect on my officer efficiency report the are feels like in the past five to seven years there's been a like a lot of vindication for your work and and and for you know people who are active in service to be confirming the things that you were you know telling the public in you know late '90s and early 2000s how does that feel to now see it you know to

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see a l on Joe Rogan showing showing Joe like the Montana documents um I don't recall whether we discussed this yesterday but um in uh the the the New York Times article that came out in December of 2017 uh Leslie Kane Ralph blumen paole that basically exposed atip to the world um in the article they mentioned that atip Scientific Advisor was Dr how put off and I was shocked because in

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2005 uh I reached out to him to help me write a chapter in my book on faster than light travel I knew that he had done a peer-reviewed paper on it so um and then in '08 when the first edition of UFOs and nukes came out he suddenly wrote to me and said I need four copies of the book shipped overnight and I checked into it it was going to be $115 and I got back to him and said said you know what's the rush that's a lot of money just let me send it Media Mail and he said Robert uh day after tomorrow I

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have a meeting with some movers and shakers in Washington and I'm going to distribute your book and what I didn't know until this was this was December of '08 what I didn't know until January of 18 uh once the New York Times story came out uh how had given copies of my book to the atent members at least Lou and it turns out uh Senator Harry Reid was given a copy now just last December of 23 George knap interviewed me for a

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Netflix documentary that's coming up and before we he started asking me questions he said are you aware that Harry Reid had read your book and it was one of the reasons he had sought funding for ASAP and I said you know really and he said he told me that point blank and um you know there were a number of reasons that he felt that there had to be a new UFO investigation but apparently the witness testimony contained in my book was one of the reasons that he decided that had to be done uh sooner rather than later

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so that feels good to know it feels good to know that should be vindicating you know I mean I'm 74 years old and it just seemed like decades have gone by where not much progress has been made in terms of public awareness I mean I've spoken at over 500 colleges and universities so those people were in on my work the local media who covered the program were in on my work but the national media for decades avoided me like the plague they you know i' send press releases out no one covered me at all uh so finally in

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just the last five years I'm getting the sense that hey you know it wasn't it was it was worth all the time and effort that I put into it so yeah it feels good and it's it's interesting we're going to get into some of the deeper Roots as to how you got attracted to all the UFOs stuff but you know the nominal story in UFOs and nukes at least is that you're were a janitor and your father was stationed at Malmstrom base in ' 67 and you were learning about radar Theory and you know radar operator calls you over you see these unknowns right I think in

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many ways Hal put off has a similar story where he sort of stumbled upon the UFO stuff he ran the cia's psychic spy program and I think a lot of these remote viewers would see beings you know in various places on you know the Dark Side of the Moon in Ino Swan's case you know elsewhere and Joseph mcmonagle saw bases on earth right and I think that got him up to speed on okay maybe there's some other pres presences out here he then join this is the part of the story people don't really know he then joined something called the

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advanced theoretical physics group ATP group and it was him and Oki Shannon who was uh you know a physics lead at Lo Alamos Project Lead there um John Alexander who has a long history in this and I think is sort of maybe tied in with the doe or something and they're all sort of studying and I think Eric Davis probably joined later and they're all studying you know the physics of UFOs like how would this stuff actually work theoretically and I think put off

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figured out a lot and I think he's much deeper than people realize on the actual science of this stuff somewhere well I saw a video and I think it was mmle yes um was called to the Pentagon one day and was told to go to this room and he goes in he said it was like a broom closet but it had a table in it so he sat down and if I remember the story correctly someone came in and said we want you to use remote viewing for this

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site and the story is that he basically saw a UFO hovering over a nuclear missile which I thought was pretty interesting so Joseph mcmonagle for people that don't know has done more televised remote viewings than anybody in the world he was known as uh uh remote viewer number one wow and he was you know the most talented and most consistent psychic spy for the Stargate program also talk about this stuff running in families he happens to be the nephew of Robert Monroe who is doing all

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sorts of Consciousness studies they you know still has in his namesake the Monroe Center in Virginia named after him and and uh mcmonagle lives in Faber Virginia right right around you know right around there and I remember being on the phone with Joseph mcmonagle once and he was saying you know yeah it's crazy you know that the ET stuff is definitely real he was giving me all this interesting evidence and talking about the remote viewing stuff and then he said something that I will never forget uh he said that I think we might

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be turning into these etss or something they might be sort of prompting us to turn into some of them I can't help but wonder if we're on the precipice of massive revolution in human consciousness where we either evolve there together or we bifurcate and still evolved there but in a very different way we will have our minds expanded there will be a paradigm shift traditional institutions such as religions governments other social

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institutions May indeed by threaten be threatened by what is coming that is just a logical consequence of what is about to occur Hastings for his multi-decade long tireless dedication to telling the stories of these Brave Patriots who just want a broader surface on an ontological truth that is global ubiquitous and should not be classified but Hastings exists in a tradition of other

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researchers who have called out the UFO nuclear connection before him some of whom will not see the Vindication that Hastings will see in his lifetime James McDon Donald was a physicist at Arizona State who after seeing a UFO at Savannah riversite nuclear facility at South Carolina was made a public mockery of Harry Turner was the head of the Australian nuclear program he became very convinced in the UFO nuclear connection writing candidly that he thought the Americans had gone much

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deeper on UFOs in anti-gravity than the fake Air Force Project Blue Book would have you believe Turner was well acquainted with the UFO nuclear link due to many usual occurrences in Australia's own Atomic test range Turner suggested in a 1971 document that the Australian government invest more time and effort in UFO research the government unfortunately did not listen to him if you read Robert Hastings book He's not telling you what to think he's not saying that we're definitely living in

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the plot of The Day the Earth Stood Still that these beings are definitely trying to deter us from destroying the planet and ourselves although he is partial to the benevolent protector Theory a bit more than the Hostile adversary Theory Hastings main point is a scientific one that we can't just throw out the testimony of almost 200 standup Patriots who are screened for their mental health and say that they are seeing UFOs repeatably showing up in sensitive American airspace that's just bad science and bad thinking but I will

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say our world is truly on the brink and there's likely just a narrow path out we can react to these nuclear linked UFO sightings in one of two ways we can clamp down or we can reach out perhaps the message that a 23-year-old Mario Woods got from the beings he encountered are the most relevant here I kept hearing over and over do not fear do not fear what do you hope the world gets from your testimony understanding perhaps or

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possibility of not to think that they're here to defeat us because if they were we wouldn't be having this conversation right now can you talk to me can you hear good God is

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than you could ever imagine I wish it were simpler and I wish this were the end of it but in our next episode with Robert Hastings we're going to go one level deeper I always cite you when I speak to UFO Skeptics because as evidenced by this interview you don't miss a name a date uh you know the setup of all these Air Force bases and nuclear sites and so I cite you to Skeptics who need that level of rigor they need this repeatable thing in the form of the

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connection and so I think it it is uh incredibly C Rous that you've written a second book and it's called confession and it's really a a revelation around what you've experienced personally around the phenomena and uh it feels like you were maybe worried about putting this out very reasonably because you thought it would hurt your credibility right you have had some of your own experiences with these entities and their crafts is that right

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